I think I've said this before in a humorous way, but to be earnest about it not enough Democrats have said publicly that in retrospect was right and it was brave and correct of him to step up when nobody else did.
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In 2028, I believe Democratic Party primary voters will be looking for someone who is moderate on policy and wants to win rather than go down in a blaze of leftist zeal.
But they'll also be looking for someone who can say the establishment fucked up in a major way.
Yes Philips’ conduct is a striking and admirable contrast to people like Ackman who complained about Biden’s age and then supported Trump over Harris.
He said what he meant and meant what he said and acted accordingly.
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what made phillips's intervention noteworthy is that it wasn't very ideologica and, after it didn't work, he didn't just become a republican or oppose biden and then harris, he really was just trying to raise the alarm on biden himself x.com/mattyglesias/s…
That includes you too, license plate narc.
Unless you were too blind or witless to see what literally everyone else on Twitter was talking about at the time, but you were worried about looking like you providing aid and comfort to MAGA.
Bill Ackman strongly endorsed Dean Phillips and was basically told to fuck off.
Also the fact gets a lot of love now even tho he went on Bidens behalf to go against Dean in the primary in New Hampshire.
We should actually remember the people that risk their political lives to say what is right.
In retrospect-Marianne Williamson was right and it was brave and correct of her to step in when nobody else did.
I think quite a few influential Democrats have a lot to answer for with regards to Biden’s advanced age and decline. By covering for him, they gave Donald Trump a huge assist in becoming president. They don’t seem to be taking the heat for this that they should. Maybe we give Joe
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In May, the target was Robert Fico. In July, it was Donald Trump. The pattern of these attacks is becoming clearer. Who could be next?
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He’s also what was needed if you wanted to have a chance to win. A hard left progressive like Harris had no shot.
Dean Phelps was great. I enjoyed his logical approach to Democrat issues.
I think this is what happens when career politicians get too caught up in chasing local optima and the support of their political bubbles. He was overwhelmingly right, and it's really hard for me to take seriously a Democrat who won't openly admit this.
In May, the target was Robert Fico. In July, it was Donald Trump. The pattern of these attacks is becoming clearer. Who could be next?
I agree with this. RFK should also be in the list of "was right and it was brave and correct of him to step up when nobody else did"
This looks like you. Probably Dean was right. Overall, it might have not worked out.
The problem is he went off the rails later just clamoring for “unity tickets” like Dennis Kucinich in 08.
Also looking back at his strategy of reaching out to the tech side and wanting a bipartisan group was the right way twords the white House.
He just had no chance in the primary for the Dems, business leader, Biden did not want it and he supports Israel
When free speech is frowned upon and patriotism is regarded as being fascist, there is zero chance of redemption.
All congress members who actually thought Trump was dangerous and didn't say anything about Biden age/ability to win are cowards. They should never get a leadership role in any party.
*AND Marianne Williamson who said it all even before Dean and please don’t erase her lest you’re guilty of what you accuse others of
Also don’t forget one of the leading contenders for DNC Chair, Ben Wikler, kicked off Biden’s challengers from the primary ballot in WI forcing Dean Phillips to take it to the WI Supreme Court
In May, the target was Robert Fico. In July, it was Donald Trump. The pattern of these attacks is becoming clearer. Who could be next?
100% he was ostracized and they tried to shut him down when he clearly was speaking the truth.
They want to be like their European brethren so bad they can taste it. They won't be able to help themselves. They'll spend 4 years flying to Davos on their private planes to absorb all the eco-socialist and anti-human BS. When they come back they'll say all the right things to
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I thought his campaign outside of Biden old sucked but yes he was def proven right. I was pretty much in your camp where the good SOTU's had made me think Biden was going to reproduce the same level at the debate.
Phillips was broadly correct and suffered from executing a campaign of his own, although it has rightly been pointed out that he was pleading more talented campaigners to run.
He was openly mocked for daring to suggest Biden have a real contested primary.
"I was convinced the Democrats were more interested in some man showering with my daughter in her locker room than they were in me having a job."
Many such cases!
Dean was hurt by too much “lane shopping”. Starts off trying to be a Prog M4A and Anti War. The left doesn’t bite. Needs and he goes to tech right, which just made him seem like a plant or a collaborator. Then finally ends with awkward anti politics, but does endorse Biden
Almost like y'all should've had an actual primary and forced ol Genocide-For-Brains to debate or something...
Can't wait for the Dem State Media stenographers to become as irrelevant as the Democratic party.
LOL continuing to run moderates when one just lost to a fascist. Yah, winning strategy right there. LOL
That is a false narrative. Dean jumped in just before the New Hampshire primaries. Riding on Marianne Williamson’s coattails and policies. He is a good man and was unfairly treated, but was NOT the only challenger to the DNC’s narrative.
Oops! We got Trump elected. At least we are safe at home collecting empire paychecks
THE REASON YOU KEEP LOSING IS YOU KEEP GOING RIGHT AND THERES ALREADY A RIGHTWING PARTY MORONS
The people in power now were routed in 2020. They kept working. Now they have a mandate for a new vision.
Phillips can run as a Bill Clinton type embracing a lot of Reaganism. But it’s too early. GOP should have atleast 8 years but probably 12 year mandate
I've said this before, but humorously, I think Matt truly and profoundly doesn't understand American psychology because of his elite upbringing(so it's not his fault). Dean Philips made Dukakis look like a cowboy. Americans don't like dweeby vibes(Matt does because Dalton).
He was.
I thought it then, when i saw him have to equivocate on CNN last January.
And I believe it now.
The only thing that man had going for him was talking about Biden's age. Stop acting like he's some kind of patriot.
He had no real resume, and only appealed to centrist middle aged white guys, but besides that, sure
It’s always worth remembering that Dean explicitly said for months before running that he didn’t want to be the candidate.
I think his campaign was a shitshow, but that was likely more to do with him not actually wanting to or expecting to run.
He’s a good egg
“So they killed Cassandra first ‘cause she feared the worst
And tried to tell the town
So they set my life in flames, I regret to say
Do you believe me now?”
In May, the target was Robert Fico. In July, it was Donald Trump. The pattern of these attacks is becoming clearer. Who could be next?
Just as is and why needs to have a conversation with her! I would use the word I want… But I actually think we need this
Right about some things but still a Zionist guy who wanted to bomb Gaza to smithereens
Seems like this would depend entirely on a) the main motivation of voters was age, and b) they started feeling that way in summer 2022. Don’t think either of those things are true.
Democrats with a functioning brain and common sense stated publicly a long time ago that Dean Phillips was spot on and made legitimate points in his primary campaign lol.
The thing is to look for those saying something that’s hard to say and stand behind. Like Phillips.
Don’t look towards those groups who all say the same thing - that’s easy - even though they’ll tell you it’s hard.
Hey it would be great if you could just shut the fuck up due to being consistently wrong about everything thanks
In May, the target was Robert Fico. In July, it was Donald Trump. The pattern of these attacks is becoming clearer. Who could be next?
He was dumb and boring and had nothing to recommend himself other than being younger. It came off as a vanity run. Now if Fetterman or Whitmer had tried it, that would have been brave.
"in retrospect" are the key words - you have no foresight or wisdom and understand what is happening only after it happens.
So you not know there's a huge faction to your left that is not being represented in any way? Maybe you should tap into that instead of doing the thing that cost you two elections.
Nope. Biden was a good president and we'd all be better off if he was reelected.
I will never be convinced otherwise.
nope. moderate will lose. we need universal healthcare zero cost at pos and tuition-free education
In May, the target was Robert Fico. In July, it was Donald Trump. The pattern of these attacks is becoming clearer. Who could be next?
The worst thing you can do in politics is to be correct too early; what a noble and patriotic sacrifice at great cost of his personal ambitions.
Had already stepped up many months before Phillips. And she was actually running on a fundamentally different policy agenda.
Andrew Yang said it. He also called the need for UBI. And the Dem establishment shit on him. We deserve everything we get.
Marianne Williamson stepped up way before Phillips did. Give credit where credit is due, please.
Normies on the right knew this to be true…weird that the “normies” on the left didn’t…
In May, the target was Robert Fico. In July, it was Donald Trump. The pattern of these attacks is becoming clearer. Who could be next?
Lol. No.
The guy did not act in good faith & the campaign strategy was nonsensical
You should be posting mea culpas for the rest of your life, you eggheaded dullard!
Brave of someone to say the most obvious shit in the history of obvious shit.
The problem with is that he's an underperformer, he wouldn't have done any better than Harris. We need good candidates to run.
UHM. Marianne Williamson was the FIRST candidate to primary Biden. Give credit to her, not Dean.
Dean Phillips was not right!
Dean Phillips completely got the 2024 electorate wrong!
Maybe it’s already happened bc I don’t watch much cable news, but it would be good if Chris Hayes (or another at MSNBC) would invite him on and talk to him for half an hour or so. Maybe educate the audience about what he saw and what he wanted.
when was the last time you were demonstrably right about something? if n/a, when was the last time you weren’t exactly and maximally incorrect about anything?
It was a close election and many Americans vote for circuses. For entertainment.
Phillips was an opportunist who played mean girl locker room games
But he never actually made an argument that Biden was impaired, which was what would have been needed to convince actual primary voters. Campaigns based on "vote for me because other voters won't vote for your guy" don't generally go far.
Yea very brave.
Yall are both stupid and cowards. Of course there should have been primaries you spineless subservients.
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Yup. He deserved so much better. One of the many steps to regaining credibility for the Democratic Party should be a full apology to Dean Phillips.
Honestly, I couldn't believe that so few saw that he was right at the time. I'm grateful I followed Dean's campaign. In long interviews, he showed his shrewd intelligence, authenticity, honesty, kindness, and humor. I was appalled by how he was treated. He deserved better.
Except his complaints and suggestions were dumb and would not have produced a different result
I was and remain a big fan. He spoke truth when it was hard and turned out to be right. He was also on the forefront of bringing more business leaders into government. I hope he comes back!
Dean Phillips was an egomaniac and part of the problem.