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YIMBYLAND
@YIMBYLAND
The average NEPA impact statement takes 4.5 years to complete. That's ridiculous. Here's a list of things that took less time to BUILD than it takes to complete a 575 page impact statement... 1. Golden Gate Bridge - 4 years, 4.5 months
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@AlecStapp
The environmental review process is fundamentally broken.
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YIMBYLAND
@YIMBYLAND
NEPA was very important for the time in which it was created.... In 1970. Today, NEPA is holding us back from building clean energy, transit, infrastructure, and much needed housing. It’s time for reform.
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Tyler
@Tylercasperr
I’m not a MAGA republican, but America used to be undeniably great. We did great things regularly. We were an awe-inspiring civilization. Who can say that is the case today? I would like for us to be great once more.
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Wadedale
@wadedaletown
Construction time is in no way indicative of the pre-engineering/design process, including environmental review and right of way acquisition. Construction is just the stage everyone sees
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RKing
@ryanssking1
A few things that should occur. 1. All environmental reviews should take no more than twelve months, assuming it requires an active field study of what would be impacted over the seasons. 2. All lawsuits against, must be forced into a single class. To avoid the cycle of suits
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praxisexordium
@praxisexordium
I truly despise using these next set of words, but it sady describes it rather accurately. NEPA impact statement taking nearly half a decade is a pretty blunt indication of a deep state. It shouldn't take so long that any competing geopolity can outbuild mere paperwork. Wtf.
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Chris McKee
@Ragcha
I think targeting specific streets for development will get more traction than broad policy shifts. In San Francisco, I think the YIMBY movement should direct all of its energy to building up Geary Boulevard from Japantown to Ocean Beach five stories, with shops on the street.
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FredipusRex
@FredipusRex
1930s SF - 4 years to build the Golden Gate Bridge 2020s SF - 20 years to open a bathroom in a train station. 1930s - let's open the bridge by taking a blowtorch to a steel chain 2020s - let's open the bathroom by using finger scissors on toilet paper
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Doug _ _ Heiken
@doug__h
Environmental impact statements are sometimes the only thing standing between an old growth forest and a clearcut. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
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Birch Bark Pantaloons
@Joeweekender
It would be interesting to know how much those times have extended since 1970. I'd bet the bureaucratic infrastructure that's built up around NEPA has extended itself bit by bit over the last 50 years with no constraints on its growth.
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jak1998
@jalexanderk2000
even developing in business friendly states has become difficult. 1 year for a CZC (coastal zoning) charleston sc. along with wetlands. and lack of utility capacity. also wind load and earthquake fault line. what was already difficult, is now almost impossible.
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Vladislav Iordanov
@vlad1011
It took 5 years between the start of construction of Central Park Tower until topping out - 1 year more than Willis Tower. The buying of land and various rights took 9 years vs 4 years for Willis.
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Ted Kaczynski Stan
@dirtshell
Getting support to build the GGB took a long time and had to go through multiple federal and private parties. Hearings for construction of the bridge started as early as the 1920s, 10 years before the ground breaking. Not to say the NEPA isnt bloated, but this is revisionist.
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qwe304
@qwe_304
It cost more (inflation adjusted) and took longer to add nets to the golden gate than it took to build the bridge itself.
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Progressively Worse
@wOkelandCA
Gotta love how beautiful highly-ornate 1920s Art Deco skyscrapers, 10x nicer than anything built today, were built in less than a year. Design/development/construction is one of the few industries that has gotten less efficient over time.
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Gulo
@GuloGulo77
Sir, construction time does not account for all of the engineering design, planning/zoning, property rights, etc. That's a surprising lack of knowledge for an account like this.
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Gulo
@GuloGulo77
The Golden Gate Bridge and Highway District Act was in 1923. The bridge was completed in 1937.
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J G
@asada346
What else took no time to complete? Bulldozing every downtown for large highways. Clearing old Growth. ER are important. Destroying the environment isn’t “progress”.
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Bryce J
@clunky343_
Fun fact; NEPA impact statements are why the country isn’t basically running entirely on nuclear power already.
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