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So, I see there are folks claiming that Abundance is *against* redistribution—that is, say, against Medicare, Medicaid, universal health care, the Earned Income Tax Credit, pell grants, housing vouchers, Social Security, or the minimum wage. This is page 7 of the book.
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When Ezra and I say that we're for redistribution and govt effectiveness what we mean is ... just that. It's not a subtweet. It's not a wink. It's not code. I'm a tax and spend liberal. I want the taxes to help reduce poverty, and I want the spending to actually build stuff.
𝐀 𝐇𝐞𝐚𝐥𝐭𝐡 𝐈𝐧𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐂𝐄𝐎 𝐢𝐬 𝐍𝐨𝐭 𝐓𝐡𝐞 ‘𝑾𝒐𝒓𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝑪𝒍𝒂𝒔𝒔 𝑯𝒆𝒓𝒐’ Americans of all political affiliation suddenly woke up realize they agree that their healthcare system is inherently cruel and produces unnecessary misery. ★ NEW ARTICLE ⬇️
I say this as a college professor: a lot of the pushback you guys are getting from the left has a strong whiff of “didn’t do the reading but has big opinions anyway.”
Your critics on the left won’t listen to your assurances. They have the scarcity mindset you articulate in the book. They know (deep down in their souls) that if somehow there is MORE than the people at the bottom will always have LESS. There is no abundance for them. It breaks
I'm getting a lot of questions already answered by my "These are important policies, and we support them" shirt.
I want people to be able to afford food, rent, medical care and all the rest, and I’m happy if my tax dollars go towards helping that. It would be even better if the costs of those things went down so that my tax dollars could go further and help more people, especially children.
That’s not what I’m getting from the reviews. The reviews claim that the argument _sidelines_ redistribution, so that while it’s not ruled out, it’s not taken seriously as an end in itself, or explored separately from what pro-growth policy could accomplish.
I think this is exactly what people are saying. The left wants these programs expanded and made universal, while you guys the support status quo. Building more/better is not objectionable, offering that as a contrast to those fighting to make the system more fair is.
𝐀 𝐇𝐞𝐚𝐥𝐭𝐡 𝐈𝐧𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐂𝐄𝐎 𝐢𝐬 𝐍𝐨𝐭 𝐓𝐡𝐞 ‘𝑾𝒐𝒓𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝑪𝒍𝒂𝒔𝒔 𝑯𝒆𝒓𝒐’ Americans of all political affiliation suddenly woke up realize they agree that their healthcare system is inherently cruel and produces unnecessary misery. ★ NEW ARTICLE ⬇️
Would be quite the conundrum if giving people all this money or money-like vouchers for things tended to reduce the supply of these things
yeah. so many people don't want to reason about this topic, they just see someone they don't like said "abundance" and assume you guys agree with them.
Then why a whole new 'Abundance' thing? Why not just write in the book: "Medicare for All is the best way to provide universal healthcare" and then throw your weight behind that political movement?
Healthcare is about the only thing on there that "works". 1. I get $23 a month in food stamps (parent + child household). 2. Housing vouchers are effectively unicorns. 3. idk about Pell Grants cuz I didn't attend more than 1 semester of upper ed. 4. Tax credits don't do
Let's be realistic though. We all know you are for that stuff but the country cannot sustain a debt level growth higher than the GDL growth. Even with a supposed increase in state capacity to increase growth. Cuts will need to be made.
Funding for higher education is at best subsidizing sheepskin effect and at worst creating a caste of commissars that hate Abundance.
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@ezraklein @DKThomp wish I got to ask you this tonight… you said we should have courage to hate (or reform) doctors and hospitals, how do you feel about unions and especially public unions? They’re also equally difficult partners that stifle abundance.
So your argument against 'your book doesn't talk enough about expanding redistributive policies' is 'look at this passage where we say we're fine with existing programs but, instead of talking about expanding them, let's talk about something entirely different'?
You're getting it from both sides, because "Abundance" doesn't actually mean anything new. It's reheated bullshit. You're trying to reheat Bill Clinton's nachos in 2025.
So you’re basically calling for DOGE style audit on government spending as a counter to oligarchs’ looting of the federal government??? That’s your pitch, we’ll be musk’s goons but sincerely? Little attempt to grapple with the audience’s actual resentments either elite or base
Love when they citing conservative policy as “progressive” to shit on progressive politics. Progressive policy is nationalizing these programs, not fucking vouchers for corporate profits.
Derek I’m gonna need you to sit down as I tell you that the people coming out against your book have largely not read it or given it any amount of critical thinking
Nah, it just seems like a contradiction. We want to decommodify health care since insurance companies shouldn't make a profit off our health & the insurance market fails. The same thing with housing. You still want to let developers profit off an essential need & the market fails
Yea, definitely not superficial lip service so that they can say they mentioned it at some point and then completely ignore to focus on enriching and empowering their wealthy masters.
It’s all based on keeping them dependent. Independence scares the hell out of liberals and progressives. Because once someone realizes they are capable and able to support themselves (see legal Mexican immigrants for example they vote for center right policies
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