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Timothy B. Lee
@binarybits
Tesla fans are really convinced that one of Tesla's big advantages over Waymo is that Waymo's cars use maps and Tesla's don't. This is wild to me because you can see the map right there on the screen when you are driving a Tesla.
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Timothy B. Lee
@binarybits
I know I know the idea is that it's going to be too expensive for Waymo to collect the higher-quality maps nationwide. But Waymo's parent company is Google, which already has a fleet of mapping cars. How hard can it be to add some lidar sensors to them?
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Gillinghammer
@gillinghammer
Tesla navigation is not the same as FSD. They work together of course but the car can drive in any env regardless of map data see here
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FSD 13.2.6 in China smoothly navigates a construction dirt road, with near perfect timing and execution. @MarkRober take notes for you next self driving benchmark
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Timothy B. Lee
@binarybits
Tesla can drive anywhere when backed up by a human driver. They haven't demonstrated the level of reliability necessary to driverless operation outside of a geofenced area.
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@MR9022135477150
How long until you think we will have full autonomous driving for Tesla or waymo? Are we far off?
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Timothy B. Lee
@binarybits
I don't really think "full autonomous driving" is a coherent concept. The service areas will just gradually expand. I think Waymo will reach ~nationwide scale in 5-8 years. Probably similar or a little slower for Tesla.
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Paul Hamrick
@HamrickPaul
When you drive a car I’m assuming you have google maps or Apple Maps or whatever up on in the screen. You use it to know which direction to turn at each intersection, which highway exit to get off on, etc. my understanding is that’s the level of detail a Tesla needs as well.
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