The Economist just published a deeply-researched story about car bloat, and it's very, very damning:
"For every life that the heaviest 1% of SUVs and trucks save, there are more than a dozen lives lost in other vehicles."
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The story is an indictment of for doing nothing (literally) to protect those walking, biking, or inside smaller vehicles.
Still, Americans are starting to understand car bloat's dangers. Researchers, advocates, and journalists deserve credit for that (not NHTSA).
Car bloat worsens many other societal problems too:
More GHG emissions
More toxic tire pollution
Faster roadway breakdown
Pricier cars
But instead of regulating or taxing car bloat, the federal government has actively encouraged it. Info: vox.com/future-perfect
How does that strategy affect those walking and biking? (deaths for both recently hit 40-year highs in the US)
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Lack of regulation creates these absurd situations.
Just charge car manufacturers $10M for each person killed by their cars and drivers $5M and the whole problem will evaporate.
It’s all solvable if we desire so.
Giant SUVs and trucks also kill pedestrians and cyclists at a much higher rate.
They missed that heavier cars also increase your fatility rate if the other person drives a heavier car due to increased total energy
pretty sure they only get this plot because most people don't have heavy cars (yet), so the odds are that a heavy car collides with a light one
I hope that Max and Michael were cited in the piece? Their 2014 paper is great. Doesn't everyone read Restud?
When you also take account of road space and wear, parking problems etc. these vehicles should be taxed at elevated rates.
Part of car bloat is EVs. EVs weigh more.
Huh. Heavy vehicles kill people.
What's the weigh on a Honda Civic-sized Tesla, again?
About the same as an F150, eh?
Trucks cause a disproportionate number of fatalities (in cars, bikes and pedestrians) and damage to roads. A significant percentage of freight could be carried by train, if the US stopped subsidizing the truck industry and instead invested to rail expansion. This study is yet
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ADAS like BMW's Driver Assistance Package use radar + vision to offset collision risk by mitigating or avoiding the most common collisions (details in driver manual):
(1) front-rear
(2) front-front
(3) cross-traffic T-bone (< 50 mph)
(4) pedestrian/cyclist
Anyone with a physics background knew that. The sales reps say it, but only in friendly circles.
Paywalled: did they credit Reagan, or nah?
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They needed to “heavily research” that the bigger/faster something is, the more damage it does?
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Did they include the electric monstrosities driving around ruining roads?
What if we don't want the government to get involved and fix every problem and even any inequality?
Thank God my Cybertruck is almost 7k pounds, bulletproof, razer sharp, and fast as hell. Also the most American made truck you can buy! *boom*
So.... You're telling me the bigger the vehicle I get hit by the higher my chances are of dying!?
Holy highschool physics lesson one batman, how much did this research cost?
physicsclassroom.com/class/energy/L
So u r saying there should be equity in automobile deaths
AND everyone should drive the same model car?
Car bloat has been around forever. Elderly drivers used to drive "land boats" to protect themselves in a collision. Now families drive big SUVs to protect themselves. The quality of defensive driving itself is trending downwards as folks think that ABS, ESP, airbags will keep
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Clickbait...I can't read the article without signing up for a 'free trial'.
No thanks.
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The only thing bloated are the policy wonks that want to dictate how people should spend their lives. It’s a mix of jealousy and authoritarianism with a dash of elitism to suggest you know better.
No one cares what you think other than other elites and academics.
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Would that suggest American car accidents kill the most people per accident? I think it probably has the heaviest cars on average?
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An alternate and equally correct point of view: Small cars are inherently dangerous and should be avoided.
Also: Pedestrians and bicyclists should be separated from roadways.
What are the stats for running into a Cybertruck?
I've wondered that for a while.
make all the cars the same weight and achieve social justice fatality equity?
There is not a single reason to justify owning those burger trucks
It’s the perfect example of Americanism. Literally ‘I want to look bigger and don’t care for any of the consequences as they effect other people, not me’
I like it. Wanna be safe? Buy bigger truck. Too expensive? Make more money. It has ways been this way.
At certain point one has to accept that not all variables in life can be regulated to perfection, and just stop trying to micromanage and control all aspects of society.
EVs will eventually help, as they aren't incentivised by the government toward bloat.
Because other vehicles are way too light. All vehicles should be heavy SUVs.
People (especially parents) that say,
"buy a smaller car, it's safer for other people"....
Why would you put your own family at risk?
If your small car will get hit by a truck, ya'll are dead.
Studies like those promote "Big Car" use. Every single father and mother will say,
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Interesting then that car bloat could also be attributed to electric vehicles. Cyber Truck weighs some 800 lbs more than a similar Ford F-150. EVs are HEAVY
Why blame the result on 'bloat' when it is, in fact, the consequence of climate-driven fuel efficiency standards that drove the development of cars that are less survivable?
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This is just bad analysis. First off, I can’t imagine what the “dots” represent. Then the article uses the ratio if the smallest dot to the largest. Then, no commercial or semi-tractor accidents are considered.
I think EVERYONE knows that if you are in a 2,000 pound car (what
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This won't get addressed in the US, because those vehicles are the only way that unionized automakers make any money.
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This summary is misleading.
"For every life that the heaviest 1% of SUVs and trucks save, there are more than a dozen lives lost in other vehicles."
It’s definitely an arms race. My neighbors all switched from BMW M2s to Bradley M2s.
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Did you know that a 2024 Chevrolet Suburban is only 500# lighter than a 2024 Tesla Model X?
truecar.com/compare/chevro
The actual problem is people scrolling, texting, and driving too slowly in the left lane.
so, if you have any brains, you will be the one in the heavier vehicle.
I don't think this is going to get the response they want.