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god why is California so fucking bad at everything
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Thomas Hochman
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This entire piece from @ForestMaven is remarkable. Under California's state NEPA (CEQA), wildfire mitigation projects must undergo years-long environmental reviews. Newsom's effort to "fast-track" CEQA for forest management flopped – so much so that state reps encouraged
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I would argue that these things are there to deliberately impede things from happening….the implication being that “things happening” are (often, anyways) a threat to the climate.
This is the natural consequence of having most of our politicians being former attorneys. The next governor needs to campaign on ending this shit and pulling a DOGE at the state level.
Launching a new program as a solution to a flawed existing program, instead of just axing the existing program, is peak California.
Right wing states aren't necessarily good at governance, but it does seem like they are far less actively bad. And I think any ideological worldview that ignores this is fundamentally unserious.
In a (political) system where we lack choice & competition, is that truly surprising? Decades of total one-party-rule is not healthy.
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One of the most important parts of liberal governance is creating Byzantine processes to ensure root causes of issues aren’t solved while spending infinity tax dollars on performatively doing “something”. If it didn’t work, it’s cause they didn’t get enough money.
Many reasons that largely boil down to incentive structures and decades of Democrat supermajorities. There are few incentives to make things better and many incentives to become part of the problem.
There’s a simple answer: they’re mainlining the most damaging bad take generator ever mimetically transmitted:
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The root cause of CA’s total dysfunctional is not inept politicians. People vote for them. People vote for them because they’re economically illiterate. They’re literate because they’re inoculated against learning basic economics by endless flavors of rebranded Marxism.
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Sierra club took a $100 million dollar donation on the stipulation that they never talk about immigration. They lobby congress and set regulations that are detrimental to fire management. Who runs the sierra club and why do they want to mass immigration leading people to build
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So… which party has essentially been running the state with no meaningful opposition for years again?
i am shocked also. california should create a new state committee or two to study this phenomenon
Single party governance is a disaster. Leftist policies are antithetical to humans thriving. It’s pretty much that simple.
jokes aside, i do hope people understand that this is literally what their intents are for broadly everything within civilization right? that it exists solely to stop and prevent all things to come into being and fruition right? people know that right?
Martial Law could be declared. But, not bad enough in LA, yet. Would need to run for some time (1yr+).
Because too much of the locus of decision making has been shifted to governments. Governments have insufficient consequential knowledge and are largely shielded from consequential feedback. Why should we expect them to make good decisions?
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California has over-regulated and over-democratized its way into paralysis and incompetence
Liberalism is just an ideology of elevating incompetence, and California is its purest expression.
Single party rule removes the feedback mechanisms from the political system. When there's no consequences for screwing things up, results tend to suffer.
On some level, much of the structure of California reveals a distrust in politicians and civil service. Ballot props. Recalls. Using NGOs to provide services.
If Newsom wanted to, he could use the fires as a justification to push through massive reforms to business as usual in California. I am not optimistic that he will seize the opportunity though.
As an outsider, it is bananas to see the things folks post on here about this CEQA. Might the environment be better protected and housing and public works built more affordably if CeQ was completely scrapped?
The answer is lawyers. They vote D like 80-20 and for good reason - Democrats write laws Lawyers can spend years in court arguing over and bill for the whole time. Republicans write laws judges can rule from the bench on while people represent themselves.
Uncompetitive elections? Though this just shifts the question. I'm curious, because there must be a study about this somewhere: are cities that have competitive local elections but that are in states with uncompetitive statewide elections better administered?
I mean, when the party’s answer to everything is regulation, and then it creates a whole class of white collar employment filled with people who believe regulation is some kind of Virtuous Cause, and then their spheres of regulation begin to overlap and conflict…
FYI- if a mitigation project takes years to approve- conditions will have changed by the time of approval and the originally proposed project will likely be irrelevant and need significant revision
One party rule means that we don’t get enough robust discussion (with different viewpoints!) about whether any of these policies are actually beneficial for Californians for the long-term before they’re just passed through into law.
California get a ballot initiative immediately, and abolish CEQA. The legislature can create a replacement for them later if needed.
Overregulation. As in all things, regulation must be balanced. It’s necessary to discourage bad actors, but when overdone, it creates bottlenecks and inflexibility.
When the Chargers were trying to get a stadium built in SD, it was crazy reading the articles about it. "It's 2011 so the initiative could be on the late 2012 ballot. If it gets approved there would be a one-year environmental review. Now it'll be early 2014."
I'm sorry, but they deserve the fires. It keeps happening and nothing changes, I appreciate Newsom's efforts but it seems too little, too late, they need deep structural changes. If the burning down of the rich and famous' homes doesn't make them change the law, nothing will.
The left! They create these regulatory environments everywhere they are allowed to fester. People, businesses, and states suffer and die as a result.
The ruling class in California has lost pretence that they care about governance. Pick any topic: night market for drugs, or CEQA, ... Years come and go and nothing gets done! I don't understand why they do! It feels betryal to all virtues that they pretend to care about.
They are beholden to environmental groups that advocate for terrible policy because they don’t like anything to get done including common sense things.
Wealth brings complacency, and the cycle is very slow. California still thinks it can afford it's bureacratic sclerosis.
It took 20 years to fully loot 100 years of accumulated wealth and happiness. Just hollowed it out in plain sight.
The (Boomer) hippies grew old, moved into gated communities, and became hardcore NINBY's- Using the guise of environmentalism. They had nice things handed to them and want to make sure it doesn't happen again for anyone in future generations.
we are actually very good at most things. we have just been very bad at electing good and effective governance for the last 30yrs.
Me losing arguments to libertarians because they just say "okay but look at California" and I simply have no rebuttal because California is just that retarded
"Why did this go so goddamned wrong?" is the question that will lead to better outcomes than defeatism will.
It's mostly overcorrection. California is one of the places that responded seriously after learning just how fucking disastrous and harmful pollution, industrial waste, and the so on were. Your complaint isn't far from, "wimps are why there are warnings that coffee is hot" logic.
god, why are you so fucking stupid that you think a 327 follower rando in Colorado knows how to run the state of California? 🤡
Because nothing but Democrats run California, there are no Republicans, they all left. But you know this. Thank you for admitting Democrats are as stupid as the day is long Armand.
The Democratic Party has increasingly inculcated itself from criticisms even through msm and is a Party of career ladder climbers with zero accountability.
People about to be blaming laws & regulations that exist to help fight the very climate change causing the fires &/or making arson fires even worse is wild.
NEPA is a national law, so this affects not just California to be fair. Democrats if they were competent would be trying to reform NEPA because it has destroyed the ability to build things and reduced trust in government
The honest answer is governor Reagan. This is all his legacy. The things that the right denounce as environmentalism was all rich people nimby shit to keep the coast and hills pretty after the Santa Barbara oil spill.
In California, the smart people start businesses and make tons of money, the stupid people go into government.
Centrists Democrats. Neoliberals. I'm guessing this will never penetrate because people only care about their priors, but this is not because of the left.