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You can watch the whole announcement from today here (in Chinese):
Here's an English-language news article on BYD's new 1 MW charging platform:
Here’s the clip of a BYD Han L adding 407 km of range in 5 min. You can see it peaks at over 1,000 kW in the first min and then hovers around 400-600 kW the rest of the time.
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For comparison, Tesla V4 Superchargers can reach 325 kW in North America, but only for Cybertrucks so far. Tesla said it would roll out 500 kW V4 Superchargers this year.
Tesla's website says it takes 15 min to charge up to 200 miles (320 km).
has a great write-up on the new BYD superchargers: tphuang.substack.com/p/byds-incredi
Also check out his piece on BYD's new ADAS: tphuang.substack.com/p/byd-bringing
And BYD's long-running semiconductor program, which is perhaps the biggest story here: tphuang.substack.com/p/byd-semi-gro
China is building a Coal Plant a week, so it can keep up to the power requirements. The West is not, scaling power down to attack Climate Change. While China is expanding so fast they are using up all CO2 that is saved by the other countries damaging their economies.
Not "almost as fast" but "as fast". I took 8min to fill up my 2013 Mazda 3, at a standard Cotsco pump, which was getting 700km of range on a tank.
5-minute charge to go 250 miles.
That’s a coffin nail for the gas pump era.
While the West drags its feet, China’s rolling out 1 MW chargers by the thousands.
Keep sleeping on BYD if you want, this is a tech tsunami, and it might just drown American automakers in complacency.
Much harder to roll out in other countries that take ages to add new capacity to the grid. Like that's 1/5th of a datacenter's power needs for a single charger 
(unless they're adding local battery storage at each charger, but that would lose some efficiency?)
(unless they're adding local battery storage at each charger, but that would lose some efficiency?)
Rather than waiting and putting red carpet for Tesla, India should adopt BYD wholeheartedly. That only to develop population free environment. India should have carbon tax not Canada.
there isn’t readily available multi MW sources of power on an average street corner in most countries.
Mining is basically going to be required at every interconnection to load balance this.
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I have 2 petrol cars, which feel like not so great investments if this technology spreads like wild fire
BYD’s 1 MW chargers could revolutionize EVs, but scaling them risks grid overload. Nuclear power offers clean, reliable baseload energy to meet demand, while LNG can provide flexible backup during peaks. Both could stabilize grids for ultra-fast charging without
Imagine the grid upgrades it would take to have a bank of ten of these at the side of the road. Maybe in 50 years...
Except that it is wildly impractical, using the sudden current demand of over 800 homes. Good luck putting that on the grid anytime soon.
Nice, if there is enough electric power in the grid. Forget germany on this map
How to support this kind of charging network at night... We need more Neuclear plants 
Fusion reactors are the future...
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The 1 MW charging platform by BYD is a game-changer. Imagine the impact on long-distance travel and EV adoption worldwide. The UAE and UK could see significant improvements in their EV infrastructure.
Tesla better watch out—BYD is setting the bar high with megawatt charging. Faster charging + cheaper models = serious competition!
Sounds amazing!
Your turn now:
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EVs started under the ‘green’ branding, but they’re not truly green. They’re just an alternative to gas. And I’m a petrolhead. Hybrid sports cars are the best of both worlds.
It will also need the voltage architecture of the car to change. Building a 1 MW charger is not difficult, but whats the point if most of the cars on the road cannot use it.
What will make a real tipping point is when EV's run without needing to be charged and geberate their own power with a permanent magnet motor. Impossible no, just dangerous bringing solutions like this to the public as you will not live long. Therer is big money in selling
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We don't have the infrastructure to deal with a 5% increase of current EV's that takes 8hrs to charge let alone one that can charge in 5 min
Yeah meanwhile byd vehicles in other countries
You want to charge at 140kw, sorry best we can do is 82kw
Good luck with those Megawatt chargers, I'm sure they'll be placed everywhere
I thought it would degrade the battery faster? Or is it just an option for longer trips
I learned not to trust the Chinese with regards to wattage a long time ago, back in the P.M.P.O. days.
For a company that has NEVER build a single charge point, you are having too much hope on the scaling part
mark my words
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Super-fast EV-charging will fail. 
Like with smartphones and MacBooks, there’s no need to recharge your device in 5 minutes. 
1) The technology is too expensive. 
2) You can charge relaxed at home 
or quickly while shopping. 
3) It’s
You have to display the convertion of MW to KW coz people are too lazy to do the math. 
You know you can also make your car go faster by putting jet fuel in it. Just don't expect it to last long.
All the more reason to contain Chinese industry with heavy tariffs
it sure as hell won’t be coming to America lmao we don’t bet our lives on Chinese faulty products
If you had 6 of these 1MW (MVA at unity pf) chargers at one "fill-up" station, that's an entire 13.8KV medium voltage circuit from the substation. That's a lot of power. A typical gas station only needs about a 150KVA transformer. 40 times the power draw for each gas station.
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That's a lot of power to draw from the grid, which would mean expensive upgrades. Also, fast charging degrades battery life, which will worsen EV depreciation even more.
Not a silver bullet.
It can’t simple because ex in Europe CCS2 has totally different spec that china GB-T. There is no way to achieve simillar charging speeds outside china now and mostly for 5-8yrs in future at least
This is cool, but having driven long distances in electric cars before this feels like more of a gimmick than a useful feature. 250kW is plenty, as it gives you time to stretch your legs a bit after a long stint in the car, maybe buy some snacks or eat a whole meal.
I can hear the National grid collapsing as we speak. I can’t even export 12kW of solar on a 3-phase connection. The grid is completely unready for these being installed with the ubiquity of petrol stations.
Not really. The average Chinese person drives <7000 miles per year at 4mi/KWh that's 1750KWh. At 250kw, that's 7 hours of charging per year. Vs >2 hours at 1kKW. That's not a tipping point. 2 oil changes a year would be almost 2 hours. Charge while grocery shopping 50+ hours yr.
This announcement is a bit of an anticipation, because a car would need a 160 kWh battery capable of 6C charging to gobble up that much power. They will come, but for the beginning, heavy trucks and busses will be the key users of 1 MW chargers.
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Faster charging generally means faster battery degradation. Even if they can pull this off, I want to know what it does to battery life cycles before it gets implemented into expensive consumer products.
The company didn't specify the time frame or how much it would invest in building such facilities. To date, BYD owners have largely relied on other automakers' charging facilities or public charging poles run by third-party operators to charge their vehicles.
I feel like we will see more of these :
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That what could happen
Absolutely incredible. We are getting so far behind. Totally wasting our time.
Hmmmm, have you considered the cost to the power grid? The transformer costs? The system costs? The battery longevity implications? You understand this is not innovation its just a sledgehammer approach right?
Basic battery physics tells us fast charging isn’t good for battery life. So okay you you increased throughput but if you cut battery life in half you aren’t really helping in the long run …. Well I imagine battery makers and those who mine for materials make out handsomely
Actually no, there is very little incentive of rolling this out in other countries.
A/ Most EV consumption is in China
B/ Due to high price of EV's in other countries, China will lead for near term
C/ Tiktok episode has shown western govt are not trustable
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Indian manufacturers as a cartel should get this hold of this tech even if it means selling their souls...gonna accelerate ev adoption by a millenium atleast
1MW needs 25000 AMPS on a standard 400V line that cities usually run on. This kind of power will probably burn out city underground infrastructure.
Will the high voltage DC charging diminish battery life? Tesla in the past has warned of this and recommended to avoid repeated high voltage DC charging
They don’t have the tech to do it. It is wind because they are loosing against Tesla. Chinese consumers are flocking to buy the new Model Y … BYD is worried and over leveraged.
At that power level, you need more than just charger, but the whole power network needs to be modernized I'd think, a far more difficult proposition
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Now imagine the grid you need to support intermittent 1 MW load dumps, this is just creating a bigger problem up stream
None of the millions of EVs with a fixed battery already on the road will benefit from this.
"Imagine" is the key word here. If they actually pull of this off I'll change my tune.
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This could get interesting. Slow charging times and lack of stations is main reason I do not want to own EV.
Even their current lineup overheats when charging so i wonder how these will work...
BYD will kill the Swasticar.
Better looking, more advanced and not built using glue.
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The Chinese and their achievements.
No be by selling natural resources in the ground and feeling rich.
because China has most of the Lithium. even Mexico Lithium mines are operated by them. the tech has to evolve obviously.