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hopefully just to give existing contracts a look and then let them through.
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Sounds like the federal government should sell that land so private companies or individuals may develop this vast untapped natural resource and maybe cut some national debt at the same time.
We should conserve the land. Leftists destroying Joshua Trees to build solar was fucked up, especially when it’s all going to degrade into wreckage sooner than later.
IDK, I kinda like that we take what little water there is in California and divert it to grow rice and nuts in a desert.
Nah. Solar isn’t nearly the energy panacea its advicates claim. And it doesn’t take much analysis to realize this.
Go nuclear. Improve nuclear. Reinvent nuclear. Which is almost certainly going to be part of Project Stargate.
What are these "best solar resources" getting us?
The cost of electricity in CA is through the roof, the reliability is way below desirable. Covering huge parcels of land with panels is also not the best thing for the environment.
Any chance Trump might move the needle on disposing of the excessive amounts of (untaxed, from the States point of view) Federal land?
It need not all remain Federal land. Sell a lot of it; use the proceeds to pay down the debt rather than more inflation to do so.
Solar will win assuming prices keep coming down. With that it’s a little annoying Trump doesn’t like it just because it’s different. He does have a decent point in scaling with today’s tech.
Let’s get parking lots covered first. Then, controversial opinion, cropland: solar grazing is better than corn/soy.
pause because they are spending 10x more than necessary. can get 10x solar for same price
The problem with the current solar plan is not working. I lin South Eastern NC and many farmers have leased out their fields for farm. Companies lease the land from the farmers. They use herbicides on a regular basis to prevent anything from growing and casting a shadow on the
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Yeah, this is the worst thing Trump has done. He's just stopping stuff the left likes. But solar power is the rare thing the left likes that is actually good!
Banning solar feels like the modern equivalent of killing all the sparrows in the Four Pests campaign
How r you going to transport it to where it’s needed and what will it cost to store it in batteries?
It’s not a clear cut winner.
Also, claim is regulations, env assessments impacts time and cost
no its exactly what we should be doing. All focus needs to go to nuclear, china is way ahead
Solar has the same energy density as compost. It's not much different than wind. It's trying to upgrade highly diffused and variable energy from the sun. The value of energy is a function of our ability to control it and its density in time and space. What good is solar power,
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Hopefully the pause is to take a more strategic approach to integrating the intermittent solar supply. Peak/base, inverted/inertial, dispatchable/storeed backup, and synchronized transmission should be planned & engineered for stability and reliability.
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Indeed
US added 32GW solar 2024
Total 220GW installed to 2024
Almost 300TWh solar gen 12 months to Sep2024!
Solar has 7% share US electricity generation
What's happening to corn subsidies?
Total 220GW installed to 2024
Almost 300TWh solar gen 12 months to Sep2024!
Solar has 7% share US electricity generation
What's happening to corn subsidies?Quote
Prof Ray Wills
@ProfRayWills
US corn to ethanol
36m hectares corn harvested
40% to corn ethanol
2023 corn production 387 million tonnes (~12t/ha)
Ethanol production ~58.3 billion litres
Energy from corn ethanol 342 TWh
~275 GW solar cover <1% 334,000 ha
Solar electricity out 482TWh
x.com/ProfRayWills/s
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More bad energy advice from Alex Stapp.
Solar energy in the desert SW? Far from energy using cities, in ecologically sensitive areas.
Bad idea.
Solar, like wind, to be effective at scale, causes an incredible eyesore on the environment, and is inefficient compared to nuclear.
I don't have to look - I guarantee those contracts we're abused to hell and deserved to be canceled. That's the role of the private sector not the government. If any involvement by the feds at all in energy, it should be to rollout nuclear.
What a waste of federal land, to ugly it up with solar panels.
We have plenty of petroleum, and we should be expanding nuke power.
Leave solar to the private individuals who want it. Leave federal lands alone.
When 100% of our base load of power is provided by nuclear, we can build more solar. Deal? Let’s agree to get rid of coal and gas plants before 2032 and then we can play with microchips that move electrons.
Grid solar is a freaking disaster and makes no sense. Solar is no less destructive to the land than oil and gas. At least oil and gas makes sense at grid scale.
Solar is best for distributed sovereign power production. On people's roofs. In their back yard. On buildings.
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What's the plan to avoid this waste and massive pollution? It's mostly non-recyclable. What does solar look like in a 1, 5 and 10 year plan? I'd love to see it work.
The last thing the desert southwest needs, is a ton of BLACK solar panels that capture and radiate MORE heat.
Go back to the drawing board and build a better mouse trap.
Try and design one that can be built to be not quite so bad for the planet in terms of mining, and made in
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Why are you placing solar panels on land? Until we've got them on every roof and over every car park etc, why despoil land with them?
In Australia we're covering agricultural land and cutting down forests to place panels. INSANE! Stop destroying the environment in the name of
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Why not sell the federal land to solar power developers thereby reducing the federal debt?
Wrong. Deeply wrong. We need oil, natural gas and nuclear for an energy abundant future. If solar was so great it wouldn’t need government subsidies. Do better!
It needs to be done smartly. Pausing is necessary to ensure it’s being done the right way. Not the cronyism way.
I'm actually opposed to massive solar installations in the wilderness, acres of toxic plastics and metals, an eyesore, bad for wildlife and vegetation - let's go Nukes!
Sounds like they need to compete for land in the free market with everyone else
Solar is expensive and china arebthe biggest producers of solar energy equipment
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I'm assuming the Trump folks agree with Lomborg that solar and wind raise energy prices. What is your response to that?
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The cheap green lie
You are told that solar and wind are cheap
But cramming in more solar and wind just makes power more and more costly
because solar and wind are worthless when not sunny and windy
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This is an example of the point made in How Big Things Get Done (Flyvbjerg). The pursuit of grant political gestures (announcements) precedes the thoughtful consideration of what the policy should be - leading to poor decisions, band-aids, back-tracking, blow-outs etc.
Sounds like California should stick it to Trump by speeding up massive solar farms in their desert
Put solar panels in the deserts, put windmills in the middle of the country where the wind blows, hydro where rivers run, geo where available, nuclear and natty gas to fill the gaps. Keep coal in the ground.
Trump legislates based purely on what he feels, there is no point in telling him about what's good policy and what isn't
What a joke - which one of these dots is actual federal land? Pathetic clickbate.
A solar engineer of my acquaintance told me solar is actually not great in hot climates like the desert Southwest. Solar panels prefer to be cold, they lose efficiency and longevity it high heat. He said Minnesota is the best place for solar in the US.
Yeah, turn the desert all into solar farms. what happens next? u just created more desert while also killing all existing desert life.
Not to mention it takes massive amounts of oil and energy to create the panels and they are expensive and inefficient
Let’s build 20 nuclear power plants. Then let’s see how much solar we need.
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Our federal land should not be used so some jerks can destroy it with solar panels to get rich off the rest of us!
Nah. I believe in him. If he made this decision, it's for the best. Maybe he just didn't want to but CHYYYYYYNAs panels.
Build a couple nuclear facilities there and it will be much more efficient, and take a micro fraction of the land asset.
Listen. I have a compromise here. We put solar plants along the whole border. But solar plants have lots of valuable and sensitive materials. They need to be protected. So we wall them off and have 24 hour guard on them. Boom
That map is embarrassing. BLM land is prime solar real estate for sure
Build solar over roads, or on private land where the owner gets paid market rate.
Doesn't work when you need the street lights on and batteries are an expensive novelty
Solar is terrible as a centralized energy source. Need to invest in nuclear power.
Massive industrial scale solar i an environmental abomination. It damages ecosystems, fries birds, destroys ground habitat, vandalizes viewsheds.
Why not pursue rooftop solar in the same regions - or mass scale solar on interstate highway corridors?
No thank you. Let's pass on the solar and go straight to nuclear. Nuclear doesn't know the difference between day and night, uses a fraction of the space and provides cheap, clean green energy.
Until we, the United States acquires the materials and manufacture the equipment to produce solar energy we shouldn’t depend on our adversaries to supply such a vital resource.
I don’t know why we aren’t full nuclear yet, literally the cleanest safest form of energy in the world. People say coal and oil are going to kill us all and destroy the planet yet refuse to look at clean nuclear energy which could easily replace ALL coal and oil power plants
I see what you’re saying but those are also the best places for geothermal. Geothermal gives us baseload energy like nuclear and is going to be much more useful. Use solar to give additional volume in summer for individual customers in sunny/hot places. Solars future is 3rd world
Solar's huge land-use footprint and exploitative labor/environmental practices used to mine the rare earth minerals & produce the panels are anti-earth & anti-human. Nuclear is the way: it has a small land-use footprint, is reliable, & the spent fuel rods recycle into new ones.
We don't need solar on federal land, bulldozing the very environment it's supposed to protect.
We need solar over the acres and cares of PARKING LOTS and FLAT ROOFTOPS of grocery stores and malls where the power is needed din the first place.
Close to point of use may be better. Less chance of being destroyed in case of war, and cheaper to maintain distribution.
Solar fields are disgusting and counter productive to environmental protection.
Throw solar panels over parking lots, not the desert.
It's not a barron waste land, it's a highly specialized ecosystem.
Absolutely no need to use federal land for this. If solar devs want to do a project, do it privately.
