1) The ACLU and other progressive orgs called on Biden to grant clemency to all incarcerated people who'd been granted home confinement under the CARES Act. Biden did as they asked.
2) Biden probably shouldn't have listened to them, and vetted the list of beneficiaries instead.
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(Although, I also think it's perfectly legitimate to believe that people who have done horrible things -- but no longer pose a significant threat to society -- should not be imprisoned. But that worldview entails granting mercy to people who have terribly mistreated others)
The ACLU did say that they didn't support clemency for anyone who presented a threat of violence. Violent offenders were not eligible for home confinement under CARES, however, so in practice I think this is tantamount to call for blanket clemency
My tweet says that he should not have listened to them and done something else instead. So I don't understand your question.
But this started with you asking what Biden was doing. The answer is: Mindlessly rubber-stamping the ACLU's request for how he should use his pardon power
I will say, I think that -- on net -- it's good that this clemency happened. My intention is not to demonize the ACLU, but just to clarify why Biden did what he did.
I am generally sympathetic to the idea that a person who no longer presents a threat to the public should not be in prison. But I think there's a case for imposing harsh penalties on a public official who violates the sanctity of the Justice system in the way that Conahan did
The fault of his staff. Not that he’s not responsible to some degree but it’s the staff that puts the stuff in front of him. But it’s all stupid. People who really need pardon and not getting them and people who should never be pardoned getting them.
Yeah. I think it's important for people to understand that a Democratic president didn't handpick this guy for clemency, but just did a bulk clemency that happened to include him. But still, the consequences of that action are on the administration...
I’m glad Jeet finally agrees we should tell one of the Groups to fuck off lmao
Jeff Zients could have tasked a couple of 22-year-old staffers with reviewing the list and highlighting any potentially problematic individuals. Would have taken a day or two. Just insanely poor public administration.
We’re not going to make a dent in mass incarceration if we can’t live with the fact some people who did objectively terrible things should get second chances or some mercy
So the ACLU pushed for the pardon of corrupt judges who were incarcerating teens for minor offenses to turn a profit?
Doesn’t seem very “civil liberties” of them, IMO…
I wonder what the other folks who got clemency did? Probably nothing bad.
I'm pretty amenable to points about The Groups, but I was curious and was somewhat surprised at the some of the organizations listed here. Freedmworks and Faith & Freedom wouldn't have come to mind.
(also, for 2021, this feels quite dated already)
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Biden pardoned a judge who profited off locking kids up, and you’re here playing defense? Maybe Biden’s Crime Bill brain saw Conahan’s "efficiency" as a feature, not a bug. That could be the real story, Eric.
No its fine. Please stfu and log off or focus on the real criminal traitor in the White House . Jesus Christ you idiots are rtarded on here
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Eric, this is a letter from *3.5 years ago.* Is your argument that "The Groups" are responsible for Biden commuting a cash-for-kids judge because of a 3.5 year old letter, as if he didn't do it 2 weeks after pardoning Hunter, and like 3.5 years isn't enough time to vet anyone? x.com/EricLevitz/sta…
The ACLU did not pardon awful people, Biden did. This decision falls on him, and him alone.
I think people should get used to the idea that meaningful criminal justice reform will mean freeing some people who aren't sympathetic and stop acting surprised or outraged this is a result.
why give them the benefit of the doubt? only thought crimes matter to communists
the level of profound incompetence we've come to expect from this GOMER-ass administration
Make a list of everybody mass-pardoned by Biden, and the crimes they subsequently commit, and ask every democrat running for office in the future if he disavows Biden’s reckless use of the pardon power.
Make them own it.
Leftists not sabotage their own causes challenge: difficultly level impossible
It's actually because Biden's a bad person and enjoys doing nice things for bad people. For example, Netanyahu. And also voting for the Iraq War that eventually killed his son with carcinogens from the burn pits. It's hits after hits for ol' Biden.
If I had the power to pardon, I think it would be my responsibility to research each pardon. The president has 4 YEARS to plan this out. Another example of Bidens' dereliction of duties as President.
Oh, the President of the United States should have done due diligence? Wild thought.
Outsourcing the actual work of being president to advocacy and donor groups is so, so very on brand for Joe Biden, it's not even funny.
Biden could've just independently thought to do something good, like pardon all drug possession convictions. But that's impossible
this letter says "organizations on the right and the left" so its very curious for you to single out "progressive orgs"
Daniel Muesslig is in federal prison for cannabis, so this is false.
Don't attribute incompetence, to what can easily be malice.
Democrats are the pro-pedo party, they were getting their boys home for Christmas.
Of all the things the ACLU could be spending influence on, convincing Biden to give people who got a huge break of getting home confinement another break has got to be at the bottom of the list.
Of course he shouldn't have listened to them. The ACLU has long since ceased to be the organization it once was.
Same group making sure that as many jan sixers spend this last christmas in jail?
You're right at this stage Biden doesn't really have any agency left and just does what he's told.
Dude, it says a coalition of groups across the political spectrum, both left and right. This fixation on "progressive orgs" is bizarre.
Do you ever feel weird constantly tonguing a memory care case's asshole like this?
"We're not evil, we're just incompetent!" is not the defense you imagine it to be...
Or maybe media members like you should just do a better job of publicly supporting obviously good policies like this one. What purpose is served by keeping this old man who is disqualified from being a judge behind bars?
I doubt he read a single page. Staffers and auto pen have been the President for some time now.
Biden pardoned a corrupt and reprehensible judge and someone who ripped off an entire town because of a 3.5 year old letter. I am an extremely smart pundit.
This guy deserved no clemency
You guys are such suckers for right wing rat fcking. Pathetically sad.
So it's just lazy negligence. He has an army of aides who could have briefed him quickly. A jury dedicated their time to get justice done correctly. This guy wanted another four years when he obviously cannot work or focus competently anymore
This is so asinine. How is it the ACLU’s fault Biden and his staff were too lazy and checked out to read the list and cross two names off of it? Nothing wrong with their proposal at all! Don’t think they would have been upset if Biden had vetted it and those guys were left out
Progressives: "End mass incarceration!"
Biden: ok, clemency and Parsons incoming
Progressives: "We didn't mean letting criminals go!"
Biden has done nothing but do what others say his whole presidency, except when it comes to Israel
"are under threat of being sent back to federal prison", yeah, almost as if they committed crimes and were rightfully sentenced to prison.
Is Biden and his staff utter fucking morons who can’t bet his actions prior?
What the fuck is this actual argument