holy shit
training wheels eliminate the balance part while practising pedalling, which is exactly the wrong way around!
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"simulacra practice" vs "progression practice"
the *hard* part of learning to ride a bike is learning to balance.
training wheels don't help you learn to balance cuz balancing with them is nothing like balancing without them. but they make it *look* like you can "ride normal"
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This is false. Bicycles are balanced by counter-steering, not gyroscopic effect.
got a link? I remember reading some cool stuff about how it’s very important for the front fork to be angled forwards instead of pointing straight down, for the gyroscopic effect to work
They have this it’s called a balance bike, no pedals, toddlers are maniacs on those
To be fair to the training wheels what many people do is attach them with a lot of play so they don’t make any contact with the ground unless the bike is already quite tilted/likely to go down
Anyone with young kids and paying attention knows it’s 10x faster to learn on a strider (pedal-less bike low enuf to ground to allow feet pushing) than a bike w training wheels. Also way more fun and less frustrating.
Both kids learned in one morning.
Fun fact, the Wright brothers intuitively got this. They purposely built a glider first that they learned to control, and then added the motor last. It was even safer because if the engine failed, they’d be left with the glider they already knew how to fly.
Yeah both my kids did balance bike and were riding no training wheels at 3 years old
The extra secret about training wheels is they should be higher than the regular wheels, so that when the bike gets up to speed it balances, and both training wheels lift off the ground.
Everyone learns differently. My son had trouble with the balance bike. He didn’t trust it enough to get his feet off the ground.
After two Vroom balance bikes in three years I went on OfferUp, bought an old $30 bike with training wheels. Within a week the training wheels were
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My youngest here is 2, shreds daily. My oldest is 4 he’s been on pedals riding trails since 3. Balance bikes are the obvious way to go
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Balance bike + mild gravity aids (aka small hills) is the state of the art in teaching kids to ride. My boy has been riding his balance bike since 17 months old. He will likely not actually “remember” learning to ride, as I do when my dad removed my training wheels.
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The peddling motion must also be learned, and training wheels separate the peddling motion from balance, which is helpful.
There’s no need to learn balance first. Start by learning the easy part: peddling, which does take practice to become second nature.
Some bikes balance themselves at low speeds much better than others. Test them (with no kid on the seat) before buying.
Push the bike by the seat and see if it will (mostly) balance itself.
Learning to pedal is secondary, agreed. Start on grassy slopes with the child aboard
When I was 6 my dad said he just wanted me to try with him holding me up and promised not to let go. He pushed me up to speed, got me pedaling, and at some point showed me his hands after I’d already been going for a bit. Took like 10 minutes lol
I think the real challenge with training wheels is that most kids learn to ride and turn like it's a 4 wheeler; turn left, go left. When they switch to two wheels they have to learn turn left, lean right, go right, which is completely backwards in regards to inputs.
I’ve taught many kids this way. Training wheels take months. This takes minutes. Not exaggerating. Go to a grassy park with a slight slope. Magic.
I never put training wheels on my kids bikes. I took the pedals off when they graduated from a balance bike to a bigger bike, and then put them back on once they learned the bigger bikes.
My daughter was on a 29er at 8 years old.
Raise the training wheels to require balance while having less tip over risk.
true. I learned bike when i first learned to balance it using my weight. I used to practice how much longer i can balance it without touching ground.
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if only people understood this method more (breaking things down ?????)
Did this with all our kids.
Started with balance bike when they were ~2.
Gave them a pedal bike at 3 and they just figured it out.
Makes me think about other things that we do backwards…
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yeah
Stryder balance bikes are the best. Just bought my 4 year old a Guardian and he’s already learning to pedal since he has the balance down
I tried this with balance bikes with my kids, and they didn't enjoy being on them well enough to learn to balance. They finally learned the training wheels way, because biking with training wheels was fun, and failing to balance on a balance bike wasn't.
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this is 100% true. My kids learned to cycle quickly and easily without pedals.
The effect is impressive to witness. I wonder if this is the metaphor for other educational processes which we have gotten completely wrong for decades.
I honestly thought this was common knowledge. All toddlers I know first had a bike with no pedals and then with pedals. I haven’t seen training wheels in some time now.
We started our son on a balance bike. No pedals. He gets that thing going fast enough I can't keep up. Now he needs to learn how to pedal.
Yes, this 100% works. All three of my kids learned on a balance bike - no training wheels or pedals. Switching them to a pedal bike then took less than half an hour.
This is old news. Start with a kick bike at toddler stage. My daughter rode a pedaled bike at 4 without falling. I was amazed.
Anyone who’s watched little ones zipping around on scooters and small pedal-free bikes understood this immediately
My kids got balance bikes first, and love them. They love them so much, they won't try and ride their real bikes
The training wheels are supposed to be uneven so you still have to balance the bike in between. You're not supposed to have all four wheels touching the ground the entire time.
Also, everyone's different and some people can walk and chew gum at the same time, so they can pedal,
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My son was a little older than some of the ones mentioned here, probably 7 or 8 but he learned to ride a bike in an hour using this technique.
100%
Also, by removing pedals, a kid learns handbraking early too.
Never use coaster brakes.
It’s right. I taught all my kids using the balance first method and it was radically less traumatic than the way I learned myself.
yeah, kids learn to ride bikes around 2-3 years of age if you do balance bike instead of training wheels
I’ll be thinking, “how do I take the pedals off for the rest of my life”. Thank you!
If they are on right, training wheels are not even, and encourage learning balance. The off-center leaning is disturbing to the inner ear.
yes, been saying this for 20 years -
balance bikes are a way better way to learn
I think my experience supports this.
My young twins spent some time on bikes, no training wheels. Didn’t get it. Switched to playing on their scooters, 2 wheeled, needed balance and as it said, the faster the better. Went back to the bikes after scooting a few weeks and could
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Most learning is traditionally done exactly wrong. Doing the counterintuitive thing works in many areas.
Can confirm, with my kids... this worked much better than the old-school way I learned, measured in both time and injuries sustained learning.
this is normal in the Netherlands. they're called 'loopfietsen' (walk bikes)
Pedaling is part of keeping wheels spinning which helps balance. And unless they’re always going to be riding downhill (because live in Escherville) they’re gonna need to balance while pedaling.
Also 2-wheeled vehicles steer differently than 4-wheeled. Look up 'counter steering '.
With training wheels the child has to relearn steering when they come off.
They don’t balance by the gyroscopic effect. They balance by steering into the lean.
Beautiful message - want to learn something quick? Ask yourself, how do I take the pedals off!
yep. Our kid got on a proper bike for the first time and just went after spending enough time on a balance bike before. No effort whatsoever
Another analogy for this that’s also bike related is braking on a mountain bike. Remove your brakes, and you will learn how to ride a mountain bike FAST very quickly. Same applies for much of life. Remove the brakes, and your learning curve changes.
Training wheels don't eliminate the balance part.
You‘re supposed to mount them in such a way that they prevent you from completely going sideways, not that they're in a horizontal line with the back wheel!
They're supposed to be a bit higher. You still balance the bike.
I got my daughter a balance bike when she was 2.5 and she practiced without pedals for a year. I got her pedals (on the same bike) for Christmas this year and she started riding perfectly on literally her first try. It was pretty amazing - I’ll never recommend any other way
Cycling is easy. Put a 7 year old on a bike for the first time and they will be off within 3 minutes.
It’s only trying too early that makes it difficult.
Took pedals off my kids bike based on some youtube video years ago. It took him about 4 sessions with that to learn to the balance. Once he could balance for 20-30’, put pedals back on and off he went. Balance bikes overrated b/c you don’t need them for very long.
ok, why just for kids…why not a balance bike for adults, especially older adults who may not want to ride a regular bike (too strenuous), shouldn’t do an e-bike (too easy to lose control), but still want to get out and move in a way that doesn’t stress older bones, joints etc 
Another tip, skip straight to a hand brake bike vs those pedal backwards ones once they’re ready for pedals
Balance bikes. Used for my kids, allowed them to build confidence and were able to learn to ride quickly.
This is exactly how my kids learnt cycling. Though the cycles had pedals they didn't use them and instead would coast exactly as described in the first paragraph.
I bought my 8yo nephew a balance bike and he was pedalling by 3. Got handed down to my 6yo and he started pedalling by 5. Going to do the same with my 1.5yo. Balance bikes >>>>> training wheels.
yep we only used balance bikes and never training wheels. kids learned to ride real bikes in 2 biking sessions afterwards. was incredibly surprised.
I am teaching my 4 yo to bike rn. Not using pedals or training wheel. Day 2 she is learning to balance slowly. Will see how soon she will learn. 
i never got training wheels but learned quickly how to jettison myself safely from the bike when a crash was eminent
which ended up saving my life one time i didn't realize my brakes were iced up as i was heading downhill into an intersection
i jumped and my bike got crushed
My parents went through a bunch of those balance strategies and even adjusted the training wheels so they barely hit the ground. What finally worked was a bribe of a pie of my choice. Pie was obtained the next day, motivation goes a long way on teaching.
Yeah our kids rode balance bikes (no pedals) first, about age 3, then one of them used training wheels (other skipped), then they rode regular bikes by 6 and 7
REI does a bike-riding class for kids that we took ours to, this is what they do, and the kid learns in a couple hours. Shocking how easy it was when I saw it firsthand
And bicycles don't balance due to gyroscopic effects. It's a matter of steering to keep the bike under your center of gravity.