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They don't think her policies are too far left if you go over them point by point. They just think she is because the Republicans never stop calling her a radical leftist, and people are too stupid to actually get the facts and think it through.
STAT takes a look at six Senators who will be poised for influence in health care when Republicans take power in early January.
You love to misrepresent data. Almost all the people that think “Dems went too far left” are talking about social issues. Not because they don’t like universal healthcare or taxing the rich. Populism has been in the air since 2008 and people like yourself pretend not to see it.
examine how Matthew Yglesias’s tweet, which claims that 75% of Kamala Harris voters perceived her as 'too left' based on Blue Rose Research data, fail to address the role of MAGA’s media dominance and disinformation campaigns—such as their $21 million in ads falsely framing
This data is damn near useless without a full picture of what the respondents view as “liberal” and “conservative”. Both words have next to no meaning now.
I live in NW PA and I could have told you everything in that interview without the actual numbers. Anyone who lives in a purple state knew exactly what was going to happen. We saw it happening months before the election. Harris lost the middle ground voter who just goes out and
Dems main problem can be summed up as “they’re too nice to people who want to destroy them”
X does not represent the populace. Maybe it's because the progressive left is more engaged and willing to fight on the issues, so they're more vocal on this platform?
What's your point here? Majority of democrats aren't happy with the party right now.
Show a poll on specific ISSUES and see if that holds up. It doesn’t. Universal healthcare, etc, is popular among voters.
People *perceive* Harris as a far lefty wokester because of right wing media success. She’s not.
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How are you even supposed to benchmark yourself against trump?
“Close to my views”?
What views?
Which is honestly just bizarre to me, since Democrats aren't even liberal, let alone far-leftist. But I guess Fox News-style brainwashing works if it's repeated often enough?
Gee Matt I wonder if there could be any compounding factors. Like maybe the entirety of the media landscape screeching that she is Mao and Stalin combined. Maybe, if we become George bush, they’ll quit calling us that. That’s your proposal?
Why do you think Dems lost the last election???
America already has one Nazi, corporate, warmonger party…
We don’t need two.
I know, it’s great, because your party continues to ignore reality to make the far left social media nutjobs happy. Should help them to keep losing too.
Who knows what her true beliefs were/are. Now, the people pushing her candidacy on the other hand. They most certainly were 'too left'.
I love that your parties solution is "to become more like conservatives"
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problem is still that most people think "liberal" means "woke," hence Bernie's popular with moderates. dems should move away from "woke" messaging but not move right - instead, focus on economic populism vs Musk's oligarchy, and civil libertarianism vs Trump's monarchism.
The problem is that no one knows what the voters consider liberal or conservative. Like, based on some of the stuff coming from the republican camp, even self ID conservatives are de facto just Maoists who have anxiety attacks when they see minorities and queen people.
The question was asking “liberal”, not “left”. Most people do not see liberal as a direction but instead associate it with the Democratic Party or just Democrats that they don’t like. Any poll like this will never be able to accurately poll leftists.
And what do they think "conservative" and "liberal" mean? How much does it pay to be purposefully obtuse, Yggi?
Dude read/listen/watch the Ezra/Shor discussion.
It's over. Take the L. Stancil is right. It's ok, move on. (Time to make kick-ass Lib TikTok memes.)
Yet as the GOP moves further right, their electoral prospects improve. How do you square that circle? Harris never went pro-Gaza, moderated many of her prior positions and was parading Liz Cheney around. A poll reflecting shes too left shows that reality doesn't really matter imo
It’s the leftist* version of “America is a European nation” we’re not so our politics won’t be similar.
*The right does this with culture, the left on economics.
Democratic staff probably line up a bit too well with the too online left and that would be a good place to start making some big changes.
I think framing the issue in this way really misses the point. Democratic policies are wildly popular including most of the more left ones. It all depends how they're framed and who the messenger is. Dem branding and delivery is off right now.
Democrats *are* too conservative lol. Like is this subjective poll (that didn't survey people who didn't vote for either btw) supposed to change my mind?
a) How high is your faith in polls/this pollster/this method/ this category?
b) Politicians should produce and spread, not consume and echo politics. Rs won so.
c) Chasing the Overton window just shifts the window, and you end up the Lite, incoherent version. Does that sell?
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This is the limitation of polls: you can’t ask each of those individuals to list policies that she was too left on. And some of those people even when asked specifically to list one policy they can’t tell you, but hey that’s how they feel.
I don't feel like that's even what people are saying tho. I don't think she should have "gone left" as much as she should have committed to bigger and better ideas rather than tie herself to a president you guys all emphatically and wrongly claimed people loved.
Yes BUT - this requires an analysis of what "too left" means that explains why Bernie Sanders has far higher favorability with these voters than Harris or Clinton
Perception often isn’t reality. This is a very subjective question. Don’t know that this captured the nuance.
Only in America could you be actively descending into fascism and think that the problem is that one of your two explicitly corporate-friendly, anti-labour political parties is too far to the left. Y'all aren't worth saving. Enjoy slavery.
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84% want Medicare to cover dental, vision & hearing
77% want to expand Social security
75% want a cap on rent increases
70% want a $17 an hour federal minimum wage
63% want Medicare for All
People who think these policies are "far left" are wildly over-represented on this site. x.com/mattyglesias/s…
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If the far left was popular in the U.S, we would see way more representation in congress
This still doesn’t change the reality that she did moderate and it failed miserably
Imagine a government where big government doesn't burden your future with excessive spending, taxes, and regulations. Here's how... 
Irrelevant convo. It’s about corporate power, corruption and arrogance. That’s why Dems lose
In what way was she ACTUALLY “too far left?”
I believe that this belief stems from right wing media infiltrating online media to frame her as such when on an actual policy basis she was center left
I am hoping one of the two parties makes a move to the center. I think a big portion of the voting block is hoping either party decides to listen to the moderates in their party vs the fringe.
You're conflating identitarian leftism with economic leftism, intentionally and cynically, of course.
People should understand that on social media, radicals will make multiple accounts to make their radical positions look more popular and numerous then they actually are. If you want to know what people actually think, you HAVE to look at non-social media sources.
Why are many people so fanatical about claiming (dubious, according to others) honor for their countries?
They want some of that glory!
Fanaticism, Patriotism.. Slipping is easy: A classic case of approximate thinking (Also meet BIRGERs, ARIs, HARIs)
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Too left on social issues... the arguement is she's very corporate/ republican on economic issues and those are the issues that matter
What do those words mean? People have no idea what conservative or moderate even means! It’s a a vibe
I'm very inclined to think that people simply didn't know how liberal or conservative Harris was, because the republicans did a much much better job defining her than she did.
I wonder what the results would look like among voters who knew a single policy that she supported.
73% of Americans polled thought that could bear a grizzly bear in hand to hand combat too
There's not a lot of guys like Trump. Who can literally stand up under fire, and say "FIGHT."
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I don't think she was to fsr left, but the far left is part of thst party, just like far right is part of the Republicans. 5 parties in the last election in other words
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“Moderate” and “left” are no longer analytically useful terms that provide purchase on our political situation. Populist economic messaging is no longer viewed as especially radical or even “left.” Voters who think Dems are “too liberal” are talking about culture not the economy. x.com/EricLevitz/sta…
You're right Matthew. The democrats should keep running center right campaigns with Liz Cheney. They'll definitely win in 2028, and if they don't they'll definitely win in 2032. Just keep trying the losing strategy because it pays well
When people say they think the Dems are "too liberal" what they mean is basically they disagree on two major things: immigration & the trans issue. If Dems moved right on those 2 items & left on economic policy?? They'd be unbeatable.
Am I supposed to believe they adequately got 43,000 responses and that I should take this data seriously?
Over 2 days? Huh
The Berlin Wall fell for a reason. It would be foolish to consider trying to rebuild it - and all it represents - today.
Sorry, but I can't take a survey seriously where 7% of Harris voters think Trump is more liberal than they are, and 4% of Trump voters think Harris is more conservative than they are.
There is a deep problem with the survey, or it's just totally fabricated.
People think the dems are too right wing, not too conservative. Those 2 things don't mean the same thing
preach...the far left anti maga maga having a 'big' moment, smelling salts in the air by a few thousand of the loudest and a butterfly app
'When given the choice between republican and republican lite, more people chose republican'
Aka “Kamala Harris is too black and too woman.” Her policy platform was identical to Biden 2020
This doesn't matter. Ask these people policy questions and most would schew further to the left than they believe themselves to be.
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Matt does this study ask what they perceive as liberal or left? Probably not because people like you intentionally try to muddy the waters on what is perceived as left because left policies are always popular. Wonder why people like left policies but not left leaders?
Agree. I voted for Harris but I do think she is too left.
There is a huge difference between perception and reality, the fact that she was perceived to be too far left was by design, mostly by the GOP screaming it every chance they got. The reality was and still is that the majority of voters overwhelmingly agree with lefty policies
That doesn’t mean they don’t like the policies she would have ran on if she was solidly progressive
Bernie Sanders has the same policy stances as raging leftist Dwight Eisenhower.
I sort of respect you, egg. Your side got utterly dismantled this election and you still screaming like you were right. You got your dream ticket and it failed but you still pushing a failed idea. Get that bag, egg, get that bag.
Scott Jennings leaves liberals STUNNED when he drops a nuclear bomb on the Biden "legacy."
FAR LEFT ON SOCIAL ISSUES. THE VOTERS ARE NOT WOKE, THEY ARE WORKERS!!!
Sanders is still the most admired politico today. Is it bc he identifies as a leftist? No. It's bc he, like most Americans, supports policies like M4A. KH, who never identified w/ the left, is labelled 'too left' & is hated by the majority.
'Too left' is a meaningless term, IOW.
