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Matthew Yglesias
@mattyglesias
I think this is one reason that even though remote work is “better” and more convenient, in practice it’s making everyone miserable and slightly insane. I’ll miss school dropoff chit chat when my kid decides he doesn’t want me coming with him anymore.
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Simon Sarris
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What creates strong friendships are repeated, tiny, unplanned interactions. x.com/verymoisturize…
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bones
@thekleschprince
You want to increase unplanned interactions with people you want to be friends with though. Most people do not want to be friends with their coworkers (anymore)
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Simon Sarris
@simonsarris
on the other hand remote work increases repeated, tiny, unplanned interactions with one's wife kind of surprised it doesn't raise the birth rate
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braundiggity
@braundiggity
School dropoff chit chat is WAY different than being in the same room as a bunch of people every day for eight hours. Not even a remotely similar scenario to working from home vs an office. (and remote work makes it easier to drop your kid off/pick them up at school!)
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Dan Mair
@maircomm
I love it. The freedom to set my own hours, to take a break & read for an hour on the couch or go to the fitness center or for a run -- wonderful.
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24/7heaven
@247_heaven__
I agree, but I also don't think the vast majority of office workplaces were good places to socialize prior to work from home. There is bigger problems afoot, and if workplaces were better I would wager that wfh would be a lot less desirable!
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Mike G
@gribbo586
Imo This is a ‘individual circumstances vary’ thing. Not everyone has a job that’s also their hobby like you do. They like socializing but the job itself negates most of the joy from that. Ppl dont get excited to drive in rush hour traffic b/c they want to talk to Janice from HR
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Mb W
@Mb_W2022
Yes! Agree. Remote work is more flexible and convenient…but you lose the unplanned interactions. And that ms where many connections are made
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Bitsky
@bitsky7
Imo american lifestyle (i.e., suburbs, geographically dispersed, drive everywhere, etc.) is a confounder in drawing any conclusions about the effect of remote work on social bonds, etc.
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Mark N
@mviski
People who dove into remote work and moved to remote locations really shot themselves in the foot in terms of social interactions. We’re not meant to be so isolated.
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GodzillaIsHurtingPeople
@Valentine721
Yes. I think a lot of people like remote work but I don’t think it’s necessarily healthy for them or society. NOW if they found something else to fill their time/have daily micro interactions with others than sure… but most aren’t.
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Mig
@PdxMig
Repeated, tiny, unplanned encounters don’t have to come solely from your place of employment.
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Alessandro
@polisisti
My experience of this is that the repeated facetime is good, but you also need a sense of affiliation I will never feel as close to a peer group as I did in a small, nerdy grad program I now have an in-person and a remote job, but I just can't be totally open with my coworkers
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Xavier Moss
@xav_moss
I've worked remotely for a decade, and there is a huge amount of effort you have to put in to maintain a social life. It's worth it, but it doesn't just magically appear.
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Ben Tilly
@BenTilly4
Interactions on a spaced repetition schedule are surprisingly good at creating strong friendships with no immediate day to day urgency about interaction.
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Great Deal of Ruin
@GreatDealOfRuin
As a society, we seem to 1) be concerned about our drop in personal social interaction and our increasing isolation, and 2) want to be able to work from home. Going to be hard to square this circle.
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Kevin Hudson
@KhudNY
I agree but the cost and time to get to offices and other places of work are substantial. We need to find a better balance to achieve better connections
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snailprincess
@snailprincess3
I think 100% remote work is yet another thing that feels good in the moment (who doesn't want to not commute and go to work in sweet pants) but is likely bad for us in the long term. Hybrid schedules would probably be better.
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Araucaria Araucana
@AraucariaArauc1
Remote work is making me miserable and slightly insane. It's interesting that on any given day it's preferable to work remotely, but doing it every day is much worse than going to the office.
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This_Guy
@this_guy_2024
Work "friendships" are contrived, inauthentic and fleeting. They rarely carry any value except to the shallow, extroverted social climbers who are so keen to force office work on the rest of us.
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Mike
@MikeRnFn1
I would bet most people working remotely are not "miserable and slightly insane". My guess is that most people could go in more if the wanted. That they chose not to is a tell on what they prefer.
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w8wut
@w8wuttt
what does working remotely have to do with dropping your kid off at school or not?
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