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My sense is that the administration has been looking for the optimal case in which to pull an Andrew Jackson — they may think this is it.
This is outrageous. Judge Boasberg’s order went against government agencies which were in the US, and which were in direct contact with the plane. He must hold them in contempt of court.
March 16, 2025 at 1:40 PM
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For the record, Andrew Jackson never pulled an Andrew Jackson.
How can this be? Weren't they over the Gulf of America?
What about the doctor from Brown? I figure most people think kidney transplant docs are sympathetic, but INS deported her in violation of a court order. Maybe they just think they can get away with it.
What a time for the Democratic Party to go Vichy. Sadly we are rudderless, no opposition figure to rally the street and government shutdown. Trump now can disavow all laws, all Congress actions all Judicial decisions. Who’s going to put the kibosh on it? Luigi better get sprung fast!
This is a good case for the judiciary to exercise its authority. Coercive civil contempt to compel the government to return the persons involved, with a per day fine for noncompliance, assessed against every actor who had anything to do with these transfers of human beings (pilots, agents, etc.)
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This is personally my red line. I’d like to see Democratic organizers start rallying around this.
I’m afraid people will shy away because of *who* they’ve reportedly deported, but if the law doesn’t matter now then it certainly won’t when they use it against us in the streets.
It's all political consideration. These are unpopular people, so this can be a wedge for the disengaged to be told, "The judicial system is illegally set against the administration so should be ignored." Yes they hate these people, but they are first useful.
If folks are smart and stick to the facts (i.e., the president is abusing wartime emergency powers and ignoring legal court orders), then I think that would make it through the noise.
Obviously some people will support it, but they’re already telling on themselves.
This didn’t happen in a vacuum and I don’t think the next review will say anything other than “you’re not fooling anyone”.
Bottom line is: He has to go.
Apparently, we’re just waiting for something worse.
The only midterm pitch I want to hear is prison sentences.
“Sorry, judge. The Cherokees are already walking to Oklahoma. We were supposed to turn them around?”
Shhh. Irony isn’t for you. Have a nice lie down.
Given the organizations and people involved, I presume its already happened.
Most Americans are desperate to remain in denial about the clear and obvious fact they are now living in an autocracy under a Russian puppet regime.
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What barely anybody in America understands is that they now live in an *entrenched autocracy* where the rule of law is largely gone. Completely gone, as far as it pertains to the government of President Mar-a-Lardo and Commissar Cave Sub.
Americans seem to be slowly warming up to what Trump is doing.
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The American Frog has suffered substantial brain damage.
That’s my sense too. And it very well might. They chose a good target for some kind of exceptional ruling in their favor, which they would then push the boundaries on to make universal.
Isn't it correct that the airspace location of the plane is irrelevant because, wherever it is, as long as it's in the air, the airplane is sovereign U.S. territory?
Ahhhh, BUT the planes were American planes. Therefore American soil. Therefore, the orders DO apply as the court has jurisdiction over that.
It’s odd because they are still making excuses about how they are very technically and narrowly not defying the courts while all their people are also continuing to make lots of noise about how they can defy the courts and how outrageous it is to think they are bound by the them. Something is afoot.
The judge needs to hold the attorneys and senior agency management in contempt. Throw someone in jail and maybe they’ll stop disregarding court orders.
Pick someone to hold in contempt.
The problem is that Marshals won’t enforce it.
Torches and pitchforks…
Serious question - suppose you are deposited in the Salvadoran jail. What legal recourse do you have to get out or returned to US? If you are a US citizen/resident/undocumented/prisoner undergoing sentence in US?
There might be some human rights lawyers who are available, but I think anyone getting to this place will be like they fell into a bottomless crevasse
The states have been (understandably) shy to press for contempt rather than enforcement orders. I get that they may not want to bring on a crisis, but the optics of some of those cases are marginally better, especially in the eyes of the racist right, than this case.
Let lawyers handle this and focus on attacking Trump and his lunacy for damaging the economy. The Democratic Party does not need to get branded as the protector of the rights of criminals here illegally.
They are claiming that the people deported were members of a specific gang, whatever that means, and have shown no evidence of either that or any specific illegal activity. Let that sink in. If we cannot defend basic legal concepts, what are we?
So is anyone going to admit we've crossed the threshold for what constitutes a "constitutional crisis" yet? We have a de facto dictatorship already. Are we all just going to be good Germans and look away and mind our business as long as they're not coming for us (yet)?
We need to have another million man march or protest in DC like they are doing in Serbia.
During his first term Trump called Andrew Jackson his favorite president and if I recall correctly had his portrait hung up in the Oval Office.
Do you remember when, In England, the heads of criminals -especially those convicted of treason - were mounted for display on London Bridge? Of course, this is apropos to nothing in our modern times. I was just taking a stroll down memory lane.🙄
Can you say more about what Jackson stands for in this invocation? I'm a Canadian lawyer
It’s a reference to President Andrew Jackson famously defying a court order in the 1830s: “the chief justice has made his ruling, let him enforce it.”
First they came for Tren de Aragua. And seriously, fuck TdA and the like. But the rule of law applies to everybody or it applies to none of us.
these are not gang members
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Our client worked in the arts in Venezuela. He is LGBTQ. His tattoos are benign. But ICE submitted photos of his tattoos as evidence he isTren de Aragua. His @ImmDef attorney planned to present evidence he is not. But never got the chance because our client has been disappeared.
The judge should reconvene and sanction every lawyer's licenses who made these representations. This is the only way you will trump (see what I did there?) the Cheeto's directives. Only a direct threat to LLBs JOBS will have a proper effect. That's how he "tamed" the DOJ. FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE!!