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The hackintosh subreddit is filled with goodbye posts and pictures of new M4 Mac minis. 5-years-ago, I was building PCs to run macOS because Mac hardware was abysmal. Now, people want Apple's hardware to run Windows and Linux because it's so good. How the turntables...
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I got sold on mac os when my friend with his banged up mbp triple swiped from mac os to windows and to ubuntu with parallels. I know it’s a vm not the same as running the os natively but both of that running smoothly on a vm is just something that is unmatched.
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It’s really clearer to see now looking back, but honestly the x86 era of Macs wasn’t that great. They had a strong first half but the second half was just not worth it at all. When Apple returns to using their own unique architecture, it was a return to form.
It’s sad to see but quite inspiring at the same time. During the lockdown I was scrambling to get a compatible GPU to run the set up. Not anymore.
I’ve been a believer since M1, and am totally convinced that anyone still dismissing them simply hasn’t actually used one
My 64gb intel MacBook died last year and I purchased an M3 Air. Better for travel. I’m blown away. Besides running GPU heavy NN stuff it’s incredible. E and I play valheim to unwind sometimes. Not only does it run flawlessly with no fans - we forgot to plug in for two hours last
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I have an M3 MacBook Pro. It's honestly incredibly fast. I can run ARM versions of Win11 and Ubuntu at the same time in MacOS via VMware along with several more full-screen apps and all are super smooth. Hours long HD video encoding takes seconds. I'm not an Apple fan, but 👍
I have a studio. I grew up doing music stuff. I was not about to drop $$$$ on a legit Mac Pro and dwelled on Hack builds man. Dang. That new Mini is truly insane and tech is so available now. Kids are lucky!!
I cannot stand MacOS or the insane keyboard layout and yet I've been anxiously awaiting the M4 Ultra Studio announcement because I'm probably going to buy one. The hardware is too good. Once I discovered you can enable SSH on a Mac worlds opened up.
After buying a Mac Mini in 2012, I quickly realized that building custom PCs for Photoshop and web design just didn’t make sense anymore. PCs still dominate for gaming, but for how long? 🤔
The problem for me is still software and always will be software. A lot stuff I use will never run in MacOS and with bootcamp dead, it is a non-option even though I desperately want a Mac Mini
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I have a Mac Studio and have been looking and any excuse to buy one of these new Mini's I'm half tempted to buy one to replace my Linux Plex server but a macOS Plex server just feels... Extravagant It would probably transcode better and use less electricity...
6 years ago I turn my laptop into hackintosh, 2 and a half years ago I got an M1 Macbook Pro and I can confirm no other Windows Laptop could beat it
I'll never forget the joy when I got my first Hackintosh running with Snow Leopard. At age 18, I had no idea at the time what I was doing when I was injecting nvidia drivers, and now I manage endpoint hardware in a large Enterprise. How the turntables indeed.
Back then, Apple’s Prices were terrible for the Hardware you got, not even considering thermal throttling, even I used to be very interested in Hackintoshes back then But got myself an M1 MacBook Pro back in 2020, never been happier, it just worked well and performed really well
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I've been thinking about buying a Mac for fun myself to play with and to play with programming for MacOS and iOS. This is from a guy who has always been a PC guy. However the Mac would not replace my custom PC.
Apple is so far ahead of the competition it is embarrassing Imagine windows and android being the best ‘competitors’ to apple products in 2025
I wouldn't even bother with a Hackintosh today but I sure ran one years ago. The M-series Apples are great and my PC is just a gaming toy.
100% I built a hackintosh with my son 5 years ago as a learning experience for both. We just replaced it with a Mini. I also got myself an M4 Pro Mini for my podcast record & edit system.
I'd like to run a hypervisor on this stuff, maybe that's a good use for the pro if we can pass PCIe devices to the guests
Seems to be decent hardware indeed. Problem is the people porting Linux to it are bad actors and have a history of exploiting vulnerabilities when they get the chance.
Moving away from Intel was the best move they have probably ever made. They are the masters of their own product now.
Ernest question Quinn, what are people using the hardware for? Video processing? Is it a time saver, or does it open up possibilities that weren’t available before?
Apples hardware is still trash IMO, it’s literally taken them this long to do anything that isn’t overpriced trash. Still for most part easy to build on your own
Dying to get my hands on one. And I HATE apple with a passion. Also want to try the new developer unit from NVIDIA. Too much money on taco bell, stocks, and christmas presents to take on anytime soon. 😅
Mac hardware is still unable to run the latest flagship Nvidia GPU, so it’s pretty much useless for me as it always has been.
I haven't used any of the Mac products that I have been given from my Apple friend. The m4 silicon has a lot of Asics in it for many things but the arm SOC with the memory on the same substrate good follow through.
If they would add a focus on gaming and GPUs, I would be inclined to make the switch. Until then, I'll stick with my custom PC for that and my Mac mini for homebridge and things like that.
I’m still using my iMac Pro, but this year I’ll most likely upgrade to a Mac Studio (hope they’ll update it to the latest M# chips) or a Mac Mini M4 Pro. I use a Mac Mini M1 at work, and it’s a beast!
Hackintosh was always just a fun project for me. I would never use a machine like that practically. Too unstable. However, when you get a full custom build working with kexts, it’s the best feeling ever.
Five years ago, I had a Hackintosh Xeon desktop and an aging 13” Intel MacBook Air… Today I have a maxed out Mac Studio Ultra and two Apple silicon laptops (M2 MacBook Air, and an M3 MacBook). Yeah, Apple Silicon is that good.
Been into Hackintoshes since the Tiger days - heck, after watching your NUC Cracker video (youtu.be/J-wHQEiDKr4) I bought one with 32GB RAM to use for macOS VM’s via Fusion, but after trying macOS virtualisation on a base M1 MacBook Pro, yeah…. Apple Silicon is just better.
Fast until it throttles. But it feels fast to the user which is important. Not very productive for advanced users that have far cheaper and better options for their workflows.
Got a used M1 Pro Apart from the lack of certain bits of legacy software, and games, ofc, there's so much to love. I got my old PC running now, so I don't have to worry about the gaming and legacy software problem anymore either. All so I can run old scanner software and TF2 lol.
Had a Hackintosh for more than 5 years, along side with a 2014 15" MBP. When I got my M1 Pro 16", never booted my hackintosh ever again (except for retrieving some files)
Indeed. PC I built in 2014 was designed for both gaming and being a hackintosh then in 2021 I went back to Mac with the M1 Air and now tempted by the M4 mini (have Steam Deck for most gaming needs)
Once I picked up a second hand m1 mini I retired my hackintosh and never looked back. Sure it’s 5 years old at this point and had 256/8 but it’s still a good machine. I’d love to upgrade to m4 or maybe wait for m6 someday mini.
I took a dive for it 2 years ago on the M2 Pros for my everyday laptop for my line of music work (touring/local musician) and I will not go back to Windows as my laptop. Software is fantastic, hardware is great, and even an older device like mine handles stuff like Logic great
RAM is still *crazy* expensive. Old 9900k with 128GB here. Mac with same amount of RAM still cost an arm and a lung. Also, x86 will remain much more compatible for dev. uses (docker, VMs…), until MS make windows ARM friendly. Keeping the hackintosh until it dies 👊
Well well well the Mac mini M4 is my first Mac I personally bought. At least brand new one. 🤓 You can't get a better small PC right now for that price easy as that. And the first 3rd party internal ssds are already available on aliexpress etc 👀
I can understand why. MacOS is an embarrassingly bad operating system. Using third party monitors is super buggy and a horrible experience. They prioritize slow animations you can’t disable easily. It’s just an experience designed for toddlers.
It was cool hobby back in 2008, the last days of tinkering before everything became soldered and tabletized. Sure, I burned countless hours getting extensions and drivers to work, but it was damn good fun.
Mac Minis are an unbeatable value only on their base models, not on the upgraded ones. The problem is that we don't know how much longer x86 is going to be supported on Mac OS. I would not recommend going out today and buying hackintosh-compatible PC parts for a new system.
I built a hack in 2021 because I needed a new Mac but couldn’t afford one Now I’m saving up for a new M4 MacBook Pro as a daily driver and will be using my hackintosh as a massive file storage machine
What Mac really needs now is broad and robust AAA gaming support. Then I’d have no reason to run windows whatsoever. Other than of course the corporate pc I have no control over.
Ya shit changed when they started pushing their own silicon, they further integrated other components, it became buttery smooth. I’m also glad there’s more competition in that space, intel vs amd wasn’t enough
I just hope software people to make more programs and games native to MacOS and we can forget about the piece of crap Windows has become How can you make something glorious as XP or even 7 and turn it into the mess is now
It really is amazing. They just need to get Macs to do gaming and there will be zero reason not to go Mac. I know there already is some effort in that front.
True, I recently changed to M4 from intel hackinthosh . May be this is reason they just allowed hackinthosh to grow
I mean, once they stopped releasing new hardware with Intel/AMD parts I knew this would happen one day. The last supported Intel chip was the 11th Gen, and the last supported GPU was the 6950XT both are a few years old already.
On top of the fact that they will gladly take your money just like the other guys, but Apple's track record in regard to selling out the consumer to other interests is infinitely better than Microsoft or Intel's
I’m from those amazing Motorola 68000 processor days (Apple II and IIc). When Apple was at a very scary 4% market share or something. Amazing times!!
Is the issue that non apple arm is so bad or that anything off Mac that is arm only works with platforms that aren’t ready for it yet? Could be both but I’m curious what you’re seeing.
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When M1 came out I had to seriously consider if my hackintosh was worth running. Microsoft and Intel have definitely shat themselves even when M3 came out.
the video from then got me into flipping surplus PC’s
I ran Hackintosh on a second ssd on my main PC but now got an MacBook and the Hackintosh is no longer needed Would be nice tho if the MacBook would be able to run Windows Bootcamp
They are great, new Airs are brilliant and has great thermals Unfortunately I need CUDA for work purposes but if they can find away to run Nvidia again I would fully move over to Apple
People like the hardware, but Apple needs to up its software game. AI features aside, they have some fundamental problems seemingly due to technical debt that needs to be settled.
FIVE years ago...?! You were building PC's to run macOS FIVE YEARS AGO, in 2020?!? What a waste. Mac's have been killer since 2012
I’m still using Open Core Legacy Patcher to run MacOS on my 2016 MacBook Pro. Won’t be long though. Now that the standard for Apple Silicon Mac’s is 16GB I’ll be picking one up soon.