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Andy Masley
@AndyMasley
It really does feel like a mild mass psychosis event. It’s just so odd talking to adults speaking so grimly about using 3 Wh of energy. I’ve been a climate guy since I was a kid and I didn’t anticipate how many strange beliefs the scene would pick up.
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Kevin Roose
@kevinroose
There are a lot of problems with this platform, but the quality of AI discourse here is still 100x better than Bl**sky, which is awash in “every ChatGPT query bulldozes an acre of rainforest” level takes.
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Ron Smith
@Ubertag90210
It is just the innate need for religion that most people have They reject traditional religions and end up taking the environment or veganism as a substitute for religion.
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Andy Masley
@AndyMasley
It doesn’t matter how dumb it is. A digital clock uses six orders of magnitude more than a watch. Neither matter at all for the climate crisis. An incredibly small value (0.1 seconds of using a toaster) can be an order of magnitude more than another and still be nothing.
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Tristan Cunha
@cunha_tristan
If there's a movement that includes trying to change people's behavior for the better, it's going to attract people that just like using that moral "stick" to hit people with. Some people like telling others what to do, and they'll be attracted to groups that let them do that.
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Izak Tait
@burnt_jester
In Afrikaans, we have an idiom that (loosely translated) says, "If you want to hit someone, you'll find a whip." If you start with the idea that AI is bad, then you'll look for any argument to support that stance, even if the argument wouldn't hold up by itself.
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Dylan HadfieldMenell
@dhadfieldmenell
I don’t follow this particularly closely and I suspect the conversation isn’t well grounded in data. But, anecdotally, I listen to
@drvolts
’s podcast religiously and people who don’t care about AI are talking about AI demand for energy as a growing challenge.
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🇨🇦halogen
@halogen1048576
you would always be confused at my mother's house when you went to turn something on. then you'd remember you had to turn it on at the power strip because she was worried about harming the environment with standby power
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akidderz
@akidderz
They were always just looking for scaffolding for their hatred. Climate is easy plug and play. Inequitable outcomes will also work and you’ll more as they actual use it and realize the intelligence multiplier.
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Maynard Handley 🟦
@handleym99
One of the messages I'm trying to evangelize is that trying to "raise consciousness" (of ANYTHING) is a socially destructive activity. The main thing it achieves is to provide the dumb (ie 80% of society) with one more weapon to level at each other. If your <plan to solve
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gryffinp
@gryffinp
I believe it's left over from the anti-crypto psyops of 2021, which were still wrong on galaxy-brain economics grounds but were at least grounded in something resembling physical reality.
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Typing Loudly ⌨️
@typingloudly
it's more of a common denominator thing. there are many valid reasons to be worried about AI business models, privacy destruction, IP theft, job displacement with immature tech, etc. But all of those take more time to explain than the massive future power costs of expanding AI.
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Brian He
@beeheld
The real issue isn't the carbon intensity of a query, but the practice of putting energy usage on trial. How I spend my kWHs is none of your business. If you don't like the energy mix of the global electricity grid go do something about that. Wild idea: tax carbon.
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Fat Cannibal 
@FatCannibal
What? Climate is an environmental problem stemming from our influence on natural systems. Technology "subverts" nature. If thats not a recipe for attracting crazed hippies with batshit beliefs I dont know what you could come up with thatd do it better.
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