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Josh Barro
@jbarro
The Biden WH did do Harris dirty in various ways. But her willingness to say so *now* just makes her costly no-daylight approach to Biden during her brief campaign only more baffling. The time to throw him under the bus was when she could gain electorally by distancing herself.
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Harris voices her frustrations with the WH team. “When Fox News attacked me on everything from my laugh, to my tone of voice, to whom I’d dated in my 20s, or claimed I was a “DEI hire,” the White House rarely pushed back with my actual résumé:”
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dravida sishu
@dravidasishu
The downside to that was that she may thought that they could genuinely win without having to throw him under the bus and needless friction when early voting had started. But “I wouldn’t have done anything different” on view was way too much deference to him.
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WendyCP
@WendyDFW78
Honestly, it should have been Biden that should have announced back in 2022 that he was not going to run. It was Harris‘s responsibility to do what was best for the country and not run for herself.
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Corpo Scribe
@NightCityTimes
Why should she have thrown him under the bus in 2024? All the smartest media people told us for four years that Joe Biden was a philosopher-king who could recite Homer while tap-dancing and cooking a ten-course gourmet French meal in the White House kitchen. He was the
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Crosby Tatum
@crosbyt123
The issue for her is, she was the VP, and any separation from her and the President at the time would look down on the administration. She was boxed in, and sacrificed herself for the party to not get damaged in the long run. A calculation that is paying off as we speak.
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The Civil Liberal
@cfthepodcast
You can’t throw him under the bus during a campaign. You’re basically saying your administration sucked and you’d alienate a core of the Democratic base who like Biden. She’s doing this for 2028 and it’s going to backfire because most Dems want to move on.
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Matt Fenselau
@mattxyzed
I think you underestimate how reliant she was on his campaign infrastructure. It was operating out of Delaware! Obviously it was a mistake, but it was a real bind she was in.
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Fredo-182
@TokenFredo
I agree she should've, but she was definitely damned if she did, damned if she didn't. People would've lambasted her as unloyal or an opportunist or something like that. Or highlighted the disagreement as a sign of chaos and lack of control in the white house
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Marcus Jerry Kaz McNeely
@MarcusJKMcNeely
VP Harris handled it appropriately under the circumstances. She tried to play nice. Biden should have thrown himself under the bus. He’s the blame! And he’s inner circle! Don’t blame her!!! Black folks tried to tell y’all, but y’all didn’t listen! ⚫️
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Lone Ranger
@_SofaKingPetty
The white people in the comments kinda explain why she didn’t throw him under the bus and it shows. Black women in positions of power NEVER benefit from throwing their white bosses under the bus. Like we live in a world where not even a majority of black ppl see how he played her
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@madonnassance
Seems like she learned that though and is saying so now? She’s damned if she do, damned if she don’t. What do yall want from her, good god.
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Mired in Mayhem
@DCgayLeo
Becuz she would’ve had to spend precious time fending off leaks and attacks from his camp to the media . You can disagree but there wasn’t a really optimal option available
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Marcie Bandwidth
@Marci3Bandwidth
It seems the people around her spent a ludicrous amount of time/energy trying to convince her that anti-Biden rhetoric would’ve caused a major fracture in the base, when in reality the Biden dead-ender group was WAYYY too small and delusional to try to cater to. What a disaster
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Kayah
@__Kayah__
On the contrary. The reaction from some media/ talking heads to this excerpt only proves her point. She would have been absolutely crucified by them as disloyal & self-serving if she broke with him.
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Hunter Hall
@lil_hunty
While a good thought in theory, she was still IN his White House. They would have undermined her even more if she did this. She also had HIS campaign apparatus. I’m sure they weren’t advising her to throw him under.
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@megan_lassi
That’s a nice idea but that wouldn’t have worked while she was VP. It would have looked very petty and very small. She was in a no win situation. Costly errors all around
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Double Blind Radio
@dblblndradio
While I agree, she does talk in the excerpt about how an innate sense of loyalty kept her from doing that. I am looking forward to reading the whole book to see if there was a close breaking point. Also very curious to see how it portrays Walz.
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@beymala
The time to throw him under the bus was when she was currently sitting next to him at the White House?? By the way she isn't throwing him under the bus, She barely drove the bus past him actually. I have a list of people who threw her under the bus though.
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Gee
@CoolGreg1
There was no upside to her doing that. White people and some people im general were always going to find an excuse!
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George Jackson
@logicb4politics
Look, she was never a leader. She constantly adjusted her positions based on popular opinion. All politicians do it but Biden and her did it to another level. It was one of the few things that united them.
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Rogz
@rogtron
This is true - unless her plan from day 1 was to run in 2028, not 2024, and only viewed 2024 as a practice run.
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mp
@kiaraapee
idk if I believe that to be true, especially considering how many people would have been willing to side with Biden than her
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🐝 Simora 🐝
@SeitterSimora
I am super confused by that. If I was her, after I received the nom and the $$$, I would've let it all out and gone scorched earth to win. She didn't and that's on her, not Biden's staff.
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DBL 🇵🇷🇺🇲🇺🇦🇮🇱
@DutyLeftist
I get its going to make the rounds but can we please please for the love of all that is holy, PLEASE STAY FOCUSED ON THE PRIZE?! Does everyone down in DC really think shit isn't that bad? Why create divided lines when for the first time ever, Trump is feeling the heat?!!
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Chompy
@chompytimeline
Yes, not only would it have been helpful then… it is also pointedly not helpful now, as the slow drip of excerpt releases in the coming months will continually distract attention from Trump’s poor performance, Epstein connections, etc.
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Penguin Cavalry
@Penguin57a
The most analogous situation was 1968, and Humphrey actually did find ways to break from Johnson. Granted Humphrey had actually been a leader in Congress, not so much for Harris.
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the 8th(?) 3D Mario
@aldamasta
Hindsight is 2020 (2024?) - I can’t imagine how much regret she must feel in not distancing herself from Biden and his gaggle of sycophantic freaks. And we’re all paying the price. Smh.
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k 🥥🌴
@KingPlex__
I think Biden’s camp would’ve done shit to undermine her and Biden would’ve said dumb shit if she distanced herself..
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Sheri Lamb 🩸🦷
@SheriL16
Her perceived status for 2028 will be fascinating part of the discourse in next few weeks. It’ll be clear as mud as everyone has differing views. In this moment I am leaning towards her announcing a campaign either in November 2026 or possibly before the midterms.
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Rebecca Winter
@SkyCatch_Her
I could not agree more. She wouldn't distance from him when it mattered and it made her look fake or stupid in the process. Now she wants to be a victim for her next run. And she still hasn't explained why she put Biden people on her campaign if they did her dirty like this.
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Beragon
@Beragon
Where was the daylight? Gaza? A slam dunk, right? Not at all fraught with traps. Hey, at least she didn’t pick Shapiro. That’s prolly daylight.
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Brian King
@KingOrleans
This passage is remarkably immature and self-pitying. It makes her look bad. Can she really be planning another run in 2028?
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Angela
@IVoteClimate
When she was campaigning, she was also his VP. There are limits to how much a VP can disagree publicly with the president. Neither of them are in office now. It’s completely different rules.
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Count The VOTE😷MaskUp
@MydibaTh
Yup.
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Count The VOTE😷MaskUp
@MydibaTh
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What is Harris’s excuse? Biden is an old committed Zionist and sabotaged his own campaign. She’s got to detach from this genocide. x.com/MydibaTh/statu…
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Bobblehead Night
@AuraLeeHarvey
Nobody did Harris dirty. She was given an express pass up the latter. The DNC and Harris did themselves dirty. They underestimated our intelligence, and made absolute fools of themselves, and they’re still doing it. They’re entirely full of crap, we know, and that’s their problem
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Luca
@tzzp6r
Yep. Her lack of political instincts and authenticity showed through despite how competent she might have been as POTUS.
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Dub Landlord
@SkellyFreaks
No way - if u remember, Biden people were uncharacteristically PISSED he was forced out, could she have thrown him under the bus and not lost votes ?
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Just a Joe
@Joe8Justa
Correct. But there’s another side. Dems, not the activist on this hell hole, the actual base and voters, want answers.
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Shem Sheker
@unique4400
I don’t think “hey not only was the Biden WH fudging about his condition, they also poorly treated the VP Black Lady. 4 more years!” Biden, though a good legislator & great negotiator, was a bad executive especially as he aged. Not so much a policy distinction for Harris to make.
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JZ
@JadeandZiggy
Ummm, the idea that Kamala Harris, sitting VP, could’ve gained electorally by turning on Biden with a shortened campaign is totally detached from reality. Fox News, social media mobs, and Democratic insiders would’ve torn her apart. It’s not fantasy, that’s the truth
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Traumanomics
@Traumanomics
She had the same problem as Hillary in 2016; polls showed her ahead (narrowly for Harris), and it made sense to follow a defensive strategy. If the polls had shown her to be lagging she'd probably have taken a few risks. There was reason to believe voters will vote against Trump.
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Count Chokulah
@forceofwillprod
Her resume was accurately portrayed: slept her way into politics; obvious DEI hire; basically appointed DA by Ca. Uniparty; super fake laugh that no human believed was genuine.
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Shawn Busken
@ShawnBusken
@MarkHalperin
is right: No VP has been helped as much as Kamala Harris was. You just can’t fix word salad. What’s most amazing, and not amazing knowing her record, is zero accountability on her part.
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M🅿️F official
@mplspatsfan1
I don't think throwing Biden under the bus would've been helpful. But she should've made the case better that she was her own person and would naturally make different decisions.
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Tom Ewall
@pnattmbtc_
1. Her actual resume was the problem. 2. It’s beyond naive to think Biden would want to help her after what she did.
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Jack Straw
@JackS26744
Poor, poor Kamala. Her losses are always someone else’s fault. It can’t possibly be that she’s a mediocre campaigner. But the party “owes” her another chance to drag us down if she so chooses?
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It hello
@1sq4va
She has no real accomplishments. She failed up. What were they supposed to say? She couldn’t even prove she worked at McDonald’s.
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