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Matthew Yglesias
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Something I would love to see one of our left-factionalists at least acknowledge is that on July 13, 2024 *after* Biden shat the bed in a high-stakes debate with Donald Trump while moderates and frontliners were desperately trying to get a new nominee, Bernie stood by him.
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Matthew Yglesias
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Why? Because though Bernie Sanders said in that op-ed that he disagreed with Biden about Gaza, he said it wasn't a make-or-break issue and he *loved* Biden's domestic policy. On August 20 he hailed him as the "most progressive president of the United States since FDR."
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Matthew Yglesias
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The minute Kamala Harris lost the election, though, Bernie pivoted back to his standard line that Democrats lost because they'd abandoned the working class. But they didn't abandon the working class, on domestic issues they did what he wanted!
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Matthew Yglesias
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But then flash forward to this week and Bernie is endorsing a challenger to Diana DeGette — a Medicare for All cosponsor and Congressional Progressive Caucus member — in a race where Israel is the only real disagreement.
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Matthew Yglesias
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But what is the disagreement on Israel even? DeGette is a liberal Zionist who supports a two-state solution while Kiros is an anti-Zionist. But Bernie's position is the same as DeGette's!
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Matthew Yglesias
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Clearly these tactics of ever-shifting factional lines of battle are working for Bernie, but I think they are working in part because of media coverage that veers between hysteria and intense credulity with very little willingness to just ask what's going on here.
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Matthew Yglesias
@mattyglesias
My view of the truth of the matter is that Bernie was right the first time, and the Biden administration was aligned with Bernie's domestic policy views in an unprecedented way and that this was much more politically important than anything related to Gaza — and it was a flop!
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@steven_g_nelson
Dude out here posting 2 year old ragebait like nate silver
The media could not be played.
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crispy pad thai
@crispypadthai
something i would love to see is the abundance-factionalists at least acknowledge that david shor blew a billion dollars on the kamala campaign only to lose to Trump for the 2nd time
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Future Moldovan Citizen
@MainstreamViews
Yes, they acknowledge this. Most of the DSA considers Bernie (and AOC) to be not real socialists. Zohran is a honeymoon phase right now but he may eventually face the same fate (or he may not, he seems legitimately more radical). It's also worth noting that Bernie was never in
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Chris Wilsher
@cdwilsher
Obviously because President Biden was the best candidate, obviously. He's the only person who ever beat Trump. Trump lost his debate with Harris by the same margin that Biden lost but the GOP wasn't so stupid as to pull their candidate.
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Dave P
@dpeinsipp
Maybe because he made the same calculus that many made that Biden could (had) beat Trump and that was the best way to avoid right now. He might have been right. Do you really not understand settlement politics?
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JD
@tex__davis
deadass every leftist was mad at bernie about this what are you on about?
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Voice of Yogi Berra AM/FM/HD/AGI/PhD
@RLangford18
If you can dare to, ask your beloved Josh why he preferred "shatting" to asking Biden to not run. Ask him why he also "shat" and not challenge KH. X will be very proud of you if u query the "shattiness' of your moderate friends instead of as usual "shatting" on the left.
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Mamoosh
@Mamoooosh
The world is on fire and this consultant class dope is debating inside baseball minutiae. Laughable. They have NOTHING to counter the wave. Will have ton of fun watching these do-nothing collaborators who offer working class nothing of substance continue to flail.
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Ya Boi
@yaboi420_69
The left does acknowledge this and roasted him (& AOC) for it at the time! Your assumption here is that the left moves lock step with Bernie but it never has. The movement has always been bigger than him
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