What if we focus on Manhattanizing the non-red parts of this map? (The red parts being California’s historical fire perimeters.)
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*I know for a fact that the Bay Area map seems to be missing many pre-1930s fires. 
You get the idea though.
You get the idea though.
Also. A lot of those areas a flat and subjected to lower wind speeds, no? I struggle to see how you can put the fuel load of a dense residential area on hillsides that are known to experience 45-90 mph wind gusts on Santa Ana/Diablo days.
The Berlin Wall fell for a reason. It would be foolish to consider trying to rebuild it - and all it represents - today.
A lot of the Central Valley is either river or agriculture. Sure, Manhattanize Fresno, Sacramento, Stockton, etc. — but paving over the whole Valley would be a mistake. Plus, it has some of the worst air quality in the West due to its bowl-like geography.
It’s a little bit of a facetious comment. Most people do not know how vast the land is that is primed to burn.
I don’t live in the red part of the map. I moved out of the red part of the map after serving on my community’s fire safety commission because I realized all the structural changes were going to take too long on what I thought were the real timelines for climate change-fueled
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That's what's so absurd about Gov. Newsom's executive orders -- we should issue an EO to declare a state of emergency to build everywhere that ISN'T affected by wildfires
Exactly right. The true solution isn't hardening where fires are, but densifying where fires aren't. Radicalizing reducing the surface area of defense so that resources and tax dollars can be realistically deployed and concentrated.
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Patrick Heizer
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It really can't be reiterated enough that the destruction from these fires is a land-use issue.
We have steadily sprawled into ecologies evolved to burn.
The true solution isn't rebuilding with hardened architecture; it's to densify the areas that don't burn. x.com/tobyhardtospel…
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I love the idea. That would be amazing, but only if we get rid of the homeless and crack down on the crime at the same time.
Ironically, doing this would provide hundreds of thousands of residential units for the homeless also. They could be located outside the city.
It would be far easier to mitigate the fire risk within population centers than to relocate population centers out of fire-prone areas.
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Just the peninsula (one small part of silicon valley) is large enough to create 10 Manhattans. There are 10 peninsula size sub regions in silicon valley alone. CA is very very big. Something I didn't get until moving here from NY.
In part because many of those non-red parts of the big map are some of the ugliest patches of landscape in North America at best and uninhabitable desert at worst.
We need better fire management, like other forested nations, and more parks for children to play, not snarling concrete jungles.
Imagine trying to sell this to anyone that lives in the red areas. "Hey, I know it's getting a little hairy in LA - have you ever heard of Earlimart?"
"What is we turned CA into a giant Bakersfield and gave everyone AIDS?"
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Chapter on the Malibu/Palisades Coast
I don’t think we should Manhattanize the Mohave Desert, but otherwise I broadly agree with your proposal.
What if we upzoned the non vulnerable affected areas? Many of these homes were underinsured. Upzoning will immediately make their land more valuable. Those who choose to liquidate could recoup some losses at no cost to the state.
A lot of the Delta (where I used to work) is basically polders — drained marshes that are now barely sea level and surrounded by 19th-century dikes made of earth. They’d collapse in a strong quake and would be very expensive to reinforce to modern safety standards.
I think I agree with the concept. Certainly need denser development inside the per miter. Words matter though and at the core “Manhattanization” Carrie’s heavy heavy connotations for the majority of a Californians. Using it doesn’t win a lot of allies.
The Central Valley is probably the most probable and safest place to build. Cities like Stockton and Fresno are ripe for renewal, and there’s low seismic risk as well.
As for Manhattanizing the Bay Area (where I live) — no objections here. But a lot of that is either already built up, steep mountains, or inhabited by raging NIMBYs who will defend their $2M 2-bedroom 1950s single-family homes to the death. Good luck changing their minds.
We just shouldn’t build in VHFHSZs. With a few exceptions, because some easily defensible urban areas are included here and there.
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I mean "Manhattanizing" is almost a euphemism now. It'd be better to call it something more palatable to anti-housing folx. Maybe "innovation zones"?
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San Francisco if they had the courage x.com/averageenjoye1…
The challenge America's large cities face is the people you would want to packed in with as neighbors hate cities and the people you would dread being packed in with as neighbors love cities.
That's a funny observation.
Why haven't socialist progressives complaining about high housing costs, moved to Fresno or Bakersfield yet, instead of demanding unsustainable subsidies & dysfunctional economic policies?
Because that’s the Central Valley where all your food is grown and Mexicans reproduce at alarming rates. I won’t call you a retard this time.
why don't you stop trying to tell other people were to live. you are not god. mind your own business chairman kim.
How about NO WAY. The literal fruit and vegetable bowl of the US is the CA Central Valley. DO NOT build on more of our WORLD CLASS farmland. Instead, build homes out of STONE and METAL.
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Using emergency powers to suspend CEQA review & coastal commission control over the construction of new housing, but *only* for rebuilding single-family homes in an area that just burned down is:
a) bad policy
b) a decision designed in a lab to to drive me, personally, insane
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Elex Michaelson
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UPDATE: @GavinNewsom signed a series of executive orders to try and expedite the rebuilding process.
@CAgovernor’s office says they include:
-Suspend CEQA review and California Coastal Act permitting for reconstruction of properties substantially damaged or destroyed in x.com/elex_michaelso…
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Mind-blowing how effective congestion pricing is. Lower Manhattan streets remain completely empty. It's an important lesson to remember: how price-conscious the typical consumer is - a daily $9 fee changed the entire landscape of NYC. Lower Manhattan is going to really boom now
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The price of housing is set by supply and demand.
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