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Matthew Yglesias
@mattyglesias
This is a great thread but at the end of the day doesn’t the complaint really amount to saying Democrats went too far left?
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Lakshya Jain
@lxeagle17
Okay. So I've wanted to articulate this for a while, but never really knew how. But I'm personally absolutely, completely disgusted with the Democratic Party — *my* party, in many ways — and not because of the party moving "too far left/right". Let me explain.🧵
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Ezra Klein
@ezraklein
I don't think the rise of proceduralism maps onto any simple move left. A lot of this was designed to restrain the government itself. If you see the left as wanting a strong and capable government, this sort of hobbling is a move right.
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Ezra Klein
@ezraklein
I've watched liberal legislators in California lose to status quo-oriented interests and factions too many times to buy that. And actual lefties, like
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, seem clearer on these problems than liberal think tanks like Roosevelt. Institutionalism is its own axis.
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Ezra Klein
@ezraklein
And some of it isn't ideological at all! A lot of proceduralism is just drift and courts and agencies adding layers to processes that were simpler at their birth.
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Alex Trembath
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Alex Trembath
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I like to remind my moderate/conservative/libertarian abundance friends that The Groups are not so much a Left institution as a New Left institution. The Promethean Marxists consistently emphasize the value of material abundance and the magic of technology. x.com/sunraysunray/s…
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Bill Gosset
@studentized_tea
Agreed I don’t think process is the ideal outcome for most of the left. Incumbents/moderates offer process as a compromise which is accepted because it punts the question. Either side could theoretically get its way by prevailing in the process so it keeps the peace.
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friendly gecko
@friendly_gecko
Really, because Sunkara's own publication was raging against permitting reform, and their piece even quotes you as an example of a liberal shill for energy interests undermining glorious NEPA.
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