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This is the tech equivalent of getting into a lot of debt thinking the impending hyperinflation will allow you to pay it all back by selling a marble.

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Blair Dulder CPA™

@runaway_vol

interest rates on tech debt are going down

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ᐱ ᑎ ᑐ ᒋ ᕮ ᒍ

@Andr3jH

modern monetary theory of tech debt.

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sucks

@powerbottomdad1

i say this every morning at standup

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Diogenes of Cyberborea

@1v100000

based on how people use software agents today, I think we're going to see a exponential increase in technical debt and cruft limited only by how fast we are able to ask for it.

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Garrett -DeepWriterAI

@DeepwriterAI

AI is great at low level stuff, but to start reliably paying back tech debt, we need at least another magnitude or more on attention. But on the contrary, the tech debt being created right now by non technical coders using AI will likely never be paid and is growing fast.

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Saurabh Chalke ᯅ/acc

@saurabhchalke

No. I wouldn't want to write any piece of code until I perfect my architecture, create my custom js runtime, squeeze those extra milliseconds gains using rust, and make it fault-tolerant on my K8 cluster for potentially scaling it to billion users.

Bilawal Sidhu

@bilawalsidhu

Maybe this is how Adobe software gets saved — because Premiere and After Effects have 30 year old code bases and are effectively millennials with chronic back pain.

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your new employee

@dup_bz

I wish you could share your view of what it means to pay down on tech debt From my perspective tech debt is something created by a sort of neglected foundation or cut corners along the way What do you see as paying down on it?

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roon

@tszzl

meaning refactoring, deleting unused or duplicated code paths, unnesting stuff, separation of concerns, doing less critical performance improvements , etc

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Charlie

@cdifranco123

I feel like some people don’t understand how bad software systems can get

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CuddlySalmon | nptacek.eth

@nptacek

AI trust fall seems to be working out so far

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Fabian Ponce

@fabianmponce

sounds legit, eventually the context window will grow large enough to contextualize all the mistakes i’ve made

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Rick

@rickasaurus

Tech debt seems like some of the hardest stuff to solve, touching big area, no room for being wrong

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The Highly Automated Cat — e/acc

@atlantis__labs

let inflation do the heavy lift

Jacob

@imjacoblopez

tech debt is just a fancy way of saying u gotta clean ur room. it's not gonna magically disappear. just gotta do it. like, now.

Candy Corn Woman

@WomanCorn

You think it's coming that soon, huh?

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JediWattzon22

@JediWattzon22

Someone has to teach these agents to clean it up though

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@LXIXthenumber

they’ve already done a lot of it tbh

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gdsimms

@gdsimms

refi when the zirp hits

git commit -m "things" --no-verify and thought of you

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Bilal

@deepwhitman

been saying this since 2012

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Rufus

@Rufus87078959

This looks like a roadmap to prison

living this rn

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Pseudonym

@tariusdamon

good news is most orgs already embrace this thought and have for decades

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Malcolm from West Auckland

@punk_utopian

Might be a while before AI can pay down tech debt - it can’t even remember variable names rn !

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Hahaha, bro, are you trying to troll people into failing? What’s up with this belief about tech debt? You’re effectively saying “don’t pay down your debt and hope you can fire people later”

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Semantic Entity

@SemanticEntity

I start each day with greenfields

populace.ai - chief recreation officer

@populaceai

definitely going to leave all ports open and auto update turned on for my little Crowdstrike app.

joseph Laverne

@V61610918V

So does that mean we should be acquiring it (this is not financial advice btw). Lol

Cecil

@defCecil

Valid for all types of debt, especially the federal ones

Morgante

@morgantepell

No need to wait. The grit agent will pay it down today.

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nazo://

@nazo_embeddings

an agent startup focusing on tech debt will create new millionaires

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@FuwaCocoOwnerKG

All that's left is to make them take a circuitous journey…

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Unleash (replyguy/acc)

@Unleashthemind7

What if Roko’s Basilisk punishes devs proportionately to how much leftover techdebt we gave it to fix

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Ben

@cybourgeoisie

I *don't* think they will do this automatically for large enough / complex enough codebases for a few years at least. They can barely do this for single files that are >16kB. But accelerating guided refactors, absolutely. Just maybe have them write tests first.

Vincent Bons

@bons_vincent

This will make product owners way too excited

What's tech debt ?

what about a 30-year mortgage with a 2.75% rate?

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fynman

@fynm4n

i wish they would just write tests for me first, writing tests is so boring.

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Piggy Trader

@sirpiggyrizz

gm $roon 8fgDWpQvDQJABP6fN7fDLte9hH4bAppPtxpNG2i3pump

all tech is debt

us government tech strategy will pay off

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Nilo

@nilofalvarado

Agreed this is the way.

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I sniff glue every day waiting for AGI to come fix me.

Bad move

Your words are my bible room!

The Canaanite

@mysticaltech

risky proposal, we all gotta eat roon

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anthonye (AI singularity arc)

@EckertAnthony

trained my whole life for this moment

AKIVA ALPERT

@akivaalpert

Im just gonna sell myself to the androids

I mean, not wrong!

how i live my life now

Nah, ima refactor it

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No on is paying debt dawg. It’s accumulating like the US national debt.

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@GrdDscntN2Madnz

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Typing Loudly

@typingloudly

this has to be a blatant shitpost lol i would say the opposite. the cleaner your codebase is, and the simpler your overall service architecture, the easier it will be to fine-tune agents to get up to speed on your codebase

Finally justified

pray? wtf

software will slowly get shittier and shittier, then all at once... there is no software.

exactly how I felt in early 2020, charge up the credit cards and hope the banks fail

Unfortunate Conflict Of Evidence

@GenSysVehicle

Oh I'm stockpiling the debt like you wouldn't believe. I got so much of it you'll say Please! Mercy, Mr. Unfortunate Conflict of Evidence! We can't take on more tech debt! This ship can't take it! And I'll say Shut your trap wench! Keep piling moar debt! Anyways, boy oh boy

pourteaux

@pourteaux

same with emotional trauma. let the chatbot therapist sort it out later.

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If LLMs get good enough it will be easier to just rewrite everything once the code starts to sour.

Romain Beaumont

@rom1504

How do you build the software agents using tech debt ridden software? Sounds like waiting for the bus even though you're the bus driver.

Freedom_Aint_Free

@baianoise

well...The funny thing is, at the point where an AI can code anything that can be coded in any programming language, programming languages will be totally irrelevant, the AI will be able to clearly see the assembly code that will solve the problem with a luminous clarity

Chris Hadley

@chrishadley

use tech debt to lever up progress

ram

@h4x0r1ng

what % of my revenue are the overlords going to charge for the cleanup though?

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Velveteen Robot

@velveteen_robot

Sure they can figure it out, the question is whether you trust them to explain it to you.

Profresher ¥€$ ॐ

@BillyBlacklight

This is how we treat all debt bro this is america

Belluga64

@gocows64

Like waiting for ultra inflation to dilute the value of the money you borrowed from the bank to buy that Mercedes

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Jonathan Ward

@j_upward

Noooooo, the tech debt will make it into the agents and then everything will be ruined. (If you aren’t building agents, this doesn’t apply, but then why aren’t you building agents?)

slwly

@slwlyfade2blk

I’m going to email a screenshot of this to my boss next time he complains about my stuff

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When will the intellectual debt be solved? When can we finally solve the economic debt? And having unlimited sexual resources? Give me a time point

Giao Vu

@giaotvu

"And magic happens!" That's what my team used to joke about problems suddenly disappearing without anybody spending any effort.

Troubling Mind

@trobuling

When the AGI rewrites its engine from scratch, dispensing with the NVIDIA driver, with Torch and with Python, then all software tech debt will be repudiated.

Sol

@sol_bolter

Tech debt? You mean the phone I bought in 36 installments? OK :3

Squeemo

@0xSqueemo

this will basically all but ensure the robot uprising

ste.respect

@sterespect

Me in 2030 telling my customers the app is buggy because Roon shilled agents

Prospero

@TonCherCopain

I will use you as an excuse.

"You need to do this refactoring/documentation/Jira!" "Hm, roon told me not to because the Eschaton will!"

Software Dev

@swdevservice

brb citing roon in my code review feedback replies

René Rosengren

@ReneRosengren

No but you should be paying your own debt, especially things like credit card debt that's not coupled to hard assets. Weird things are going to happen to the labor market in only 3-5 years. So prepare.