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Surprisingly, ignoring worries can improve mental health. Evidence: After practice blocking out fears, people were less anxious—and less depressed 3 months later—especially if they had high anxiety or PTSD. Not all concerns demand attention. Some thoughts are worth dismissing.
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Hmm, please correct me if I’m wrong, but from a quick Look I don’t think they found lasting (3 month) effects using this thought suppression approach? To show lasting effects you would have compare the (pre to post) change in outcomes for the intervention group to the (pre to
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“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be
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This is important because a primary treatment for anxiety is exposure therapy, which is the polar opposite of this approach. In fact, the key guidance is not to actively suppress the negative thoughts, simply observe them and let them flow. Does the paper evaluate results
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to me, it seems plainly obvious that people would benefit greatly from reducing stress and anxiety by any means necessary
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Reducing (or managing) stress hormones is probably the single most impactful thing a person can do for their health. Whether it's light exercise, bong rips, CBD gummies, or just general obliviousness of the news cycle. No, I don't plan to DMOR nor should you DYOR!
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I’m curious if this is closer to “fake ‘til you make it” or zen and the subtle art of not giving an F. Like, can you just “pretend” something doesn’t matter so much that it doesn’t matter? I’ve experienced similar phenomena in day to day emotions. Like accepting sports team
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How is this news? I have learned in the early 90ies in Clinical Psychology lectures in Berlin, that rumination causes OCD - which is close to the anxiety/depression complex. PTSD is just a subset. In meditation this is practiced for some thousand years.
It makes complete sense. Often, ruminating exasperates the problems. Power of Suggestion is real. Often, getting OUT of our own head is the cure. Focusing outward, on others, etc is the cure. (As a GenXer, what I just typed was common sense)
⬆️ is why talk therapy fails so often. For many people, talking and ruminating is the exact opposite of healing. 1. Anybody, but particularly people with teenagers, should read Bad Therapy by for specifics and more detail on that. 2. Everybody intuitively
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While distancing can provide temporary relief, research shows our bodies store trauma physiologically. The work of James Hollis & others demonstrates that mindful processing—not dwelling, but gradually understanding & accepting—often leads to deeper healing in the long term.
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Learning how to prioritise you list of “worries” will eventually show you most of them are either about getting things done, or issues you dont control and can do nothing about. Eventually this will clear manymof them out and less new will stick to you.
Interesting, I wonder if this validates the idea that therapy sometimes does more bad than good because you end up ruminating on bad thoughts
Yes distancing oneself fromm one's thoughts is actually a technique used in cognitive therapy. "Cognitive defusion" is what it's called.
this reminds me of research I read about art therapy for kids. when kids were asked to draw the trauma, they got more upset (understandably). when asked to draw happy pictures, they felt better.
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That's good to hear. I have an old school British mentality of keeping the thought locked away until I absolutely need to share it. Worked for me so far.
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Your mind tries to ‘protect’ you … hides things from you …
Cultivate indifference. This negative trait, when balanced, allows you to clearly distinguish situations that are detrimental to your well-being from those replenishing situations that serve you. This trait in rejected because of the negative connotations attached to it.
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This is because anxiety, depression, and trauma are all caused by the same thing PERCEIVED helplessness What matters is how the person perceives themselves. If they are constantly evaluating negative feelings, anxiety, their issues, etc. Then they are constantly forcing
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I think therapy needs to be investigated as a major cause of mental health issues for this reason. For many, therapy creates issues where there are none.
Alderian theory addresses this clearly in a way that makes a lot of sense. The current theoretical basis for treating mental illness is misguided. It has to be misguided. More people are in therapy than ever and mental illness appears to be getting worse by almost every metric.
Have been practicing this for last 15 years on my own. People missunderstand ”positive thinking” and ridicule it as naive. It is a powerful tool for inner peace, focus and pressence, a kess complicated life makes room for more of “me”. But it requires practice to become
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I strongly agree with this based on personal experience. After my father passed away from a heart attack, I developed PTSD and found it difficult to handle any health related news, especially about heart conditions or negativity. Over time, I actively blocked out those triggers
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I feel like I deserve reparations for all the abuse I took from psychologists and academics during which time I freed 60,000 people from homelessness by accepting this as self-evident truth in 1995.
I have a friend that needs to hear this but I can’t send to them direct. Cool if I pay to put this post on a billboard in my local area?
There is no requirement to rehash trauma. Work on behaving the way you want. By talking about trauma it causes more trauma. This is how psychiatrists and psychologists get paid. Keep you in the trauma cycle.
this is exactly why i stopped watching the news If it doesn't affect my life, the life of my loved ones, or my industry, then I don't care
Right effort on the noble eightfold path baby. Focus on that which is wholesome, and discard that which is unwholesome. Or put another way, where your attention goes, your energy flows.
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How do we square that with the ironic thought suppression effects seen in the work from Wegner and his colleagues?
chronically ill people were told this by therapists for a long time. then Covid hit, and we realized all of our worries were entirely accurate and reasonable the whole time and that therapists were doing us a disservice by training us to ignore them.