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on a related note, we can basically just 3d print oil paintings now? with texture accuracy down to 4μm? it's pretty neat.
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keysmashbandit
@keysmashbandit
i asked my dad, longtime full-time professional oil painter, if he was worried about ai art and he said that was the stupidest thing he'd ever heard because the ai isn't making physical oil paintings & has nothing to do with him. fair points
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Étienne
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for what it's worth here are the pics I took of the original vs. the reconstruction
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🤯 i wonder what kinds of intellectual property battles this will lead to if it becomes popular. y'know, a few famous museums have a few paintings that are currently outside of my price range...
Yeah, though when you see it in person you can definitely tell it’s not a “real” painting—there’s no negative or overhanging space in the brushstrokes
inventing. a new word for the DSM-6 that. mirrors. histrionic pers onality disorder. with tech bro. hysteresis. hahahaha
yeah my gma did a ton of oil paintings up until she passed and I wish I could've saved more of them in super highres form and reproduced them later
yeah! material science combined with automation will continue to improve how we can live/design. honestly I think people will begin to commercialize this the more it's known outside of art conservation
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@hktsre
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The Getty commissioned an org called the factum foundation to do it, if you collaborated with a museum around a specific painting and them you could probably get a copy done for under 100k? it hasn't seemingly been commercialized to my knowledge so more expensive than necessary.
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yeah, I like the idea of using better scanners now to replicate even more detail/layers of paint etc
The Getty commissioned an org called the factum foundation to do it, if you collaborated with a museum around a specific painting and them you could probably get a copy done for under 100k? it hasn't seemingly been commercialized to my knowledge so more expensive than necessary.
i suspect they haven't hit the upper limit on brush controls that their robot could do! i think these techniques eventually converge but Acrylic uses real oil paint so that's a win in their favor
yeah, it's a different material though I suspect we could do sth much more similar to dried oil paint if we really tried.
you might be thinking of the popular python package manager that B2B SAAS startups reference in "why they're going to make it"
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thebes
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it's rly funny how everyone is responding with painting robots. there've been chinese painting sweatshops for decades, it's how those "upload a picture of your dog and get a $100 oil painting" companies work. not much impact on local artists bc that's not how their business works
Yep I did a deep dive into this a few months ago. Decades ago the Canadian government funded some research on RGB 3D scanning that was used to scan the Mona Lisa. A Vancouver company licensed the tech and got some big flat bed printers modified to print more layers. Cool stuff.
My brother is an oil painter and I believe the skill will be of much greater value, with more people seeking human made art, and less people making it. Here is a still-life he painted, oil on canvas.
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Aesthetic Emptiness has to permeate before the value of Deeper Meaning can realized. Which is to say, a societal shift towards evaluating artistic integrity beyond just the aesthetic.
I'd much rather have one of these than a print! A lot of artists sell their prints as a cheaper alternative to buying the real thing (Like $50 vs. $3k). It would actually be awesome for artists to sell these 3D oil prints of their own paintings as a cheaper middle ground.
This would probably be great for restoration too, in areas of paint loss. The model could be fed with the specific artist’s style as well as the rest of the painting, and then only apply paint exactly where needed and in the same style as the piece, matching impasto and all.
Restoration Hardware has been doing this for many years with their General Public wall art line but in person, it still doesn't quite look like a person painted it.
Never go anywhere never pursue anything lol. Want to see the Mona Lisa? 2 day prime delivery to your door. I feel like the last true art is just experiencing great outdoors
AI "art" isn't art. It's something, engineering maybe - which is hard and difficult and impressive, but it isn't art.
op dad sentiment not entirely wrong. the real question is who cares and so what? artists adopting new tech and mediums will make new things.
amazing, are a lot of famous paintings scanned down to that level? Would be great to train AI on that dataset
Shorty looks like she’s destined to ruin some poor engineer’s promising career. Imagine you’re with an “art girl” but she’s into robotics. Truly terrifying (what’s her @?)
I saw this about 12 years ago at the LA art fair. With permission from the van Gogh museum, this company made a perfect front and back 3-D, printed reproduction of a van Gogh. Made me think some of the originals in museums are being swapped out with these fakes.
Vanishing small percentage of artists make money actually painting... Mostly it's building murals or storefront windows.. Most artists make money by graphic design... An industry AI is already eating.
I have a BFA in Painting. Art collectors buy art hoping it increases in value. People pick things for their homes that they find beautiful. But being an artists hasn't been realistic unless you're upper class and know how to connect to investors, truthfully.
This makes oil paintings way more affordable for people who would like cheaper art to decorate their homes, but also absolutely rockets the value of human artists’ work. Authentication will be big business. The demand for “real” will increase. And beauty will be everywhere.
I think some painters will completely stop posting their art online in order to prevent it from becoming fodder for the AI harvesters. The future will have private art, with photos forbidden. Until the Butlerian jihad.
this is pretty neat, I'd love to own a painting like this someday. I imagine the cost is gonna be somewhere in between a print and the original?
I've been in the room that has the original and the modified copy. The copy looks the same, but it FEELS different. Something about the richness of the color. Not sure.
This is a fantastic advance in computing and 3D printing. Now we can all have a Mona Lisa that isn't some flat print - and at an affordable price!
the chinese can actually reproduce these with real oil paint, which AI and robots wont be able to do for hopefully a lil while longer. the soul of art will not die that easily xD
How soulless and capitalistic. The point of art is the journey (and even the inconveniences) of making it alongside its meaning. Not neat at all.
artists still in slack-jawed disbelief while talent has saved exactly 0 people from the jaws of progress can you or can you not mop a floor?
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3D printing oil paintings with 4μm accuracy? That’s a game-changer for art reproduction! Exciting times for both artists and tech enthusiasts.
WHY though. There is SO MUCH HUMaN ART. let’s just mash it together in a black box and spout out a copy so we don’t have to pay any human beings this will surely cause no structural damage and may increase profits x%
I’m a painter, this doesn’t matter. Forgeries have always been a thing
*me sweating and holding up a copy of Benjamin’s “The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction” like it’s a crucifix in front of a salivating vampire*