This is the most batshit story I have seen in a long time. How much does the U.S. pay a year for executive level secure communications? We have entire networks even satellite constellations to support this.
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Also, are these secure comms so bad for the huge $ we pay for them that the default workaround is signal? We can't have our own signal? I mean even clone it? So fucking weird this whole thing.
This administration does not trust or use government communication systems.
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Willing to bet this kind of thing happens because the actually secure messaging systems suck user-experience wise, and probably don't even have a mobile form factor (it's all supposed to be done in a SCIF?)
Easy to see how even top officials could get complacent and just use
Republicans freaked out over Hilary's email sever fiasco??
Crickets now. Republicans have no spine.
these phones probably suck in UX and it's just easier to do it over Signal.
As a European it's disconcerting to see just how much disdain some Americans hold towards us after you've spent 75 ensuring US global power had no rivals at the expense of Europe 
It could have easily been intentional to produce exactly that news story with higher credibility
Truly the most amazing, silliest security breach in history.
Is it possible that it was an accident? The editor of The Atlantic is not just some random dude.
Much like having your entire public send emails in the clear every week…
Yall are getting played
Elect incompetent people, get incompetent results. These people don’t know what they’re doing and it shows daily
Trouble is, you have to remember that Trumps "secure communications" in his first term were regularly leaked to the press. He doesn't trust those systems, and with good reason I think.
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Normally WHCA would hand out the comm tools. But given the way 45 was screwed over by leaks there’s a reasonable suspicion that some communication capabilities can’t be trusted.
While it wouldn't surprise me, I'd also be cautious of a story like this coming out of the Atlantic, they aren't exactly a neutral outlet when it comes to politics.
And I bet they also take forever to set up and don't work half the time.
Yeah it’ll take a while to clean up the garbage systems left over from the last guys.
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They appear to not trust their own communications
There are likely leakers with access to internal gov comms
It's almost as if the Administration does not trust internal USGOV systems, or why bother using Signal?
There was no war plans shared. Lets end that nonsense right now. I read everything.
They want to make sure that only they have a record of the conversations so nothing could ever come back on them. Kind of fucked that up by being sloppy with who they added 
fucking clowns all of them.
fucking clowns all of them.
Yes, but those solutions are infected by the deep state! Only the dictator of America's number one enemy can be trusted
This is strange. Are they breaking laws, communicating over commercial apps like this? I know they want to outsource everything, but even this level of communication? What do we have an NSA or DOD for?
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It goes perfectly with Vance saying his information on Ukraine is from websites and social media.
DOGE claims to look for inefficiencies in government, and these guys aren't even using the stuff the government does have.
One should like transparency regarding policy debates.
The national security implications of this "leak" are exactly zero.
An it is interesting to "know" that Vice-President Vance has some legitimate questions about significant US military operations against the Houthis.
We knew Hegseth lacked high level executive experience.
Now we know he lacks basic OpSec judgment too.
Anyone who was in the chat group who didn’t counsel Hegseth against spreading strike plans this way should also be called out for poor judgment.
Those secure comms can be a PITA to use, and lazy, undisciplined people default to their cellphones. Ask SIGINT people how much intel gets picked up in cell phone comms.
Completely missing the point of this Tyler.
Signal let's you set conversations to be automatically deleted after a certain period.
They're criminals trying to avoid accountability.
You mean like the sec def checking out for a week with no forwarding address?
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Rival cliques in the IC are clearly distrustful of each other & the Trump administration is deeply suspicious of the NSA apparatus so are actively choosing to circumvent established comms channels to conduct highly sensitive planning strategy and discussion. Best believe China..
If you go off X for a day, this story will disappear like so many before it. Proportionality is the main issue when it comes to the socials, as everything is everything until it's nothing.
They are all using Signal because the fucking Russians are not on any of those official secure communications platforms.
Anything else I can clear up for you?
Just trying to avoid FOIA and official communication retainment requirements.
I would imagine they use signal because they fear other secure comms would immediately be leaked to the press anyway.
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Communications on official secure servers are supposed to be retained. Signal isn't. Wonder what else they discuss on Signal? We'll never know but I do remember Kushner & the boys were using Signal last time also.
Pete Hegseth looks like someone you'd see drinking at the Applebee's bar at 2:15PM
The German Air Force was still clearly outclassed by almost the entire cabinet 
in the „idiocy of communication“
in the „idiocy of communication“ 
Official channels fall under record keeping laws.
Signal can delete the communications. Hope that clarifies the why.
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Had the editor not released the actual text, it would have been angrily denied and he would have been destroyed. He may still be but at least we know the truth
Look hegseth is a warfighter, he doesn’t have time to use encrypted communications. Does this fall under the category of drunk dial?
A bunch of unqualified mediocre donald sycophants so filled with hubris that they don’t bother to learn the correct way to do things.
Thanks for gifting the article.
Ppl are saying it’s no big deal. The plan is always to bomb the shit out of them.
So we got lucky this time.
What if it had been a black op somewhere? What is someone not as ethical as Goldberg saw it? What if unclass chat was hacked?
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Either a fake or a deliberate operational deception. Or, on the other hand, someone purposely retransmitted a SIPRNET (Secret DoD Internet) message over the NIPRNET (UNCLASSIFIED DoD Internet).
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The FAA is using computers that have floppy disc drives. I wouldn’t guarantee that the government is using the latest and greatest
When you don’t trust the internal communication you try something outside the system. And someone stepped into the noose and leaked this too. Soooo mission accomplished for me no change in outcome of operation all good
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I'm starting to doubt the new administration now. Hiring all outsiders isn't working here. I'd even go as far as calling them clowns.
Four Seasons Total Landscaping is the competency level of anyone associating themselves with trump.
They use Signal because 'the secure DoD system is too complicated' for them to group use and they already know Signal. Someone oversold Signal's text encryption capabilities.
But...but...but Hillary Clinton used a private e-mail server!!!1!
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None of those are as convenient. If you've ever worked with Sr leaders, you know how much they prefer paths of least resistance.
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This would get anyone serving under the SECDEF court martialed under the UCMJ.
Why is anyone surprised that potential attacks on the Houthis would be run by an Israeli intelligence representative?
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It isn’t the comms infrastructure. It’s the level of incompetence and carelessness by top officials with classified info. There will be further recurrences, I assure you.
Now why wouldn’t they use the secure communication systems provided by the US government?
‘cos they don’t trust the ‘deep state’?
And why don’t they trust the ‘deep state’?
‘Cos they know theat they’re going to act illegally.
This has eliminated what little hope I had left that anyone in this admin is remotely competent behind the scenes. We are so fucked.
