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A bigger global risk than disinformation is that idiots who think disinformation is a bigger risk than nuclear war, AI or climate change still have a lot of power and influence.
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Benjamin Todd
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Survey of 900 experts by World Economic Forum reveals they have bizarre views about the biggest global risks. Most severe 10 year risk is extreme weather events??
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IMO, they’re different axes. Disinformation is a tool that may bring about (or increase the odds) of other games like nuclear war or global pandemics. Like asking which is a bigger risk, the bullet or the cartridge or the gun.
what is the risk of disinformation if not just something that could be a domino tipping toward one of those other bad things?
It's frightening that so many people in power think disinformation is a bigger problem letting government officials define appropriate speech. That’s especially true given how much disinformation comes from government officials.
Well you can’t even get to any other problem like ai climate change ect when there is constant disinformation about them shaping public policy
What they call “disinformation” turns out, more often than not, to be inconvenient truths they want to ignore
Risk to the world, sure. But risk to their own jobs? There 'disinformation' (code for both real disinformation and correct information that makes them look bad) is indeed the much bigger risk.
Short term control goals are for hampering speech. Long term control goals are for climate change fear mongering. Makes complete sense to me.
Well, you are missing one of the big problems about "disinformation": It's nearly always politically motivated rhetoric that sounds perfectly reasonable to one side and is a lie to the other side. And it goes both ways.
Its because “disinformation” aka unapproved truths ARE the biggest threat to them and the power hey hold.
Natural resource loss seems like the most alarming risk. I don’t know the likelihood, but what the fuck happens if we actually do run out of oil?
If the gov't is lying to you (and yes, that's really who has been spreading disinformation), then it makes knowing what is going on enormously more difficult. Free speech first. Then we fix the rest.
Climate change? We know disinformation affects elections (e.g., Hunter Biden memo + social media lockdown). Climate-related disaster deaths are down 90%+ over the past century.
Imagine my surprise that WEF "experts" rank erosion of civil Liberties last. Thankfully the survey didn't offer "more civil liberties and freedoms for the proles". Might have been #1 in both columns.
Lol climate change is NOT a risk. Would you stop? At what age will you concede the whole issue is manufactured on the basis of junk science and crony capitalism? 55? 75? 90? I’m 42 and remember 4th grade lectures and scholastic book lessons on the hole in the ozone layer.
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I’d like to add the eternal human struggle against bacteria to the list above literally everything the WEF thinks is scary
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That only remains true if disinformation isn't a key contribution to nuclear war, because it certainly has been for climate change. It would be idiot to treat them as symptoms in a vacuum.
It's a much bigger risk that climate change. That you think climate change is a risk at all worth worrying about pretty much destroys your credibility. All those new variables they keep finding? The new things about the old variables? Dozens. Yet the outputs of models never
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Well, disinformation has us in our current predicament with the world’s richest man now controlling the payment system and all of the data involved for the world’s largest economy. Totally nothing to worry about
What staggers me is that our population is declining and birthrates are dropping doesn’t rate a mention. Do people who fear having children because of climate change not realise the poltential to fix it is bound up in their potential offspring
Top risks are interconnected. I would group them in threes or fives, not focus on precise order per se.
Well, one contributes to the other. For instance disinformation about climate change, exacerbate that very climate change issue. It helps climate change, deniers get elected and enact policies that make the climate change problem worse. This isn’t an either or
I think it's more the fact that disinformation is directly linked to the other existential risks. The abandonment of climate policies, like right now in the US, is a consequence of disinformation running rampant. The risk doesn't lie on disinformation,but what it leads to.
Yeah, these issues aren't independent Nate. The disinformation is used to get the guys in power who destroy the climate, incite war, drive wealth inequality, etc.
Disinformation makes all those other problems unsolvable. It directly targets and destroys our problem-solving ability.
Ten years ago, our ruling class offered agitprop telling us we must give them more power and money to stop the world from ending. Now free speech challenging that agitprop is their primary worry.
The survey number cruncher produced the ranking. risk = func(likelihood, impact) For instance, "disinformation" has a 100% likelihood and variable impact. "Nuclear war" has a variable likelihood and 100% impact. What is the risk function?
This list makes a lot more sense as ‘which things most specifically put the cabal of rent-seeking elites in this room at risk’. If I was a limp wristed nordic banker with a sneaking suspicion that I had a bill coming due, I would also rank the free flow of information as my
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True! But imagine if those 'influencers' used their power to contribute to PublicAI instead—at least we’d get some data out of their hot takes! 😂
Because nothing can be done about the serious problems due to the disinformation that is spread
True! But imagine if those 'influencers' contributed their hot takes to PublicAI instead—at least we’d get some entertaining data for AI training! 😂
Social media is kinda why we can’t deal with climate change, and may lead to nuclear war TBH. Social media disinformation (and algorithms) explains how crazy we got since 2008/2010. It’s a cause, not a effect (nukey booms).
Nate, do you not think that disinformation has a part in all the other risks you mentioned?
This doesn't say that nuclear war is a less severe than disinformation. It says that the product of event probability times event severity, or "expected impact", is higher for disinformation than for nuclear war.
Disinformation is a greater threat to their remaining in power than nuclear war, AI or climate change. Indeed the other 3 can be an excuse to increase their power!
True! But imagine if those 'influencers' used their power for good—like contributing to PublicAI. At least we'd get some data-driven laughs out of it! 😂
Couldn't disinformation in democracies limit the government's capacity to deal with nuclear war, AI, or climate change? It's the canary in the coal mine for other issues as well as a tool to make other issues worse (like the COVID response). I think it's a fair concern.
The Western elite, MSM, academics, and 'experts' seem to have bought into this narrative of misinformation and disinformation in their effort to legitimize censorship and maintain control of the narratives. Unfortunately they seem to be losing and have become more desperate. Sad
Disinformation gave us a very dangerous president. He is in charge of our nuclear weapons. We are with the axis now.
I don't think nuclear war is a big threat, but yes disinformation especially in the AI age is a huge deal and you need to up your Risperdal Nathan
Let’s face it, Trump is the biggest risk. Just the mere existence of Trump. He’s a megalomaniac.