In 2004, Bush won the popular vote & Rs won a trifecta
Ds were despondent & in soul searching mode
Many spoke of need to nominate a southerner that could appeal to WWC voters & moderate Rs (e.g. Mark Warner)
Then came Obama
The right path forward is never obvious this far out
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In 2016, Republicans won a trifecta and Democrats were once again despondent and in searching mode.
Many spoke of the need to move on from names of the past like Clinton and nominate someone fresh and youthful to take on Trump in 2020.
Then they nominated Biden, who won.
In 2000 & 2004 Democrats were trying to recapture the energy and coalition of Bill Clinton
From 2016-2024, Democrats have been trying to recapture the energy and coalition of Barack Obama
Chasing the past doesn’t really work, you have to work to create a new energy & coalition
The point is, I don’t have any answers right now.
And the people that are very confident in their answers on The One Path Forward by trying retroactively win 2024 are probably going to look pretty foolish in a couple of years.
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I agree but am worried that the propaganda machine is much worse than it was in the mid-2000s. Facts can be whatever people want them to be, now.
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the other side while the PV victory is good and needed the closeness of everything means Republicans cannot overshoot and should be willing to reach across the aisle
Is it that the trifecta overreaches and the public punishes them, or is it that parties are well aware of their limited time so they (usually) try to max out their agenda before they inevitably lose?
"Surprisingly effective" in the past, when most electeds tended to respect the rule of law. Now, it's clear that the President-elect and his enablers do not respect the rule of law, including the Constitution. In this environment past experience may not be predictive.
GW "spending his political capital" to dismantle SS comes immediately to mind
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That is exactly what I have been trying to say Democratic party doesn't need to change any of her policies the Republican party will ensure that the Democratic party will win 2028 election by the ineffectiveness.
This is true.
However, if they overreach by repealing the Electoral Count Act, stacking courts with partisan judges, refusing to count inconvenient electoral votes in 2028 to stay in power, what is the effective counter to that?
Especially with trump and maga. Things were relatively good economically in midterms of 2018 and maga got crushed.
My hot take in ‘24 on what should happen in ‘28: Dems will win with a tech/media bros ticket like Mark Cuban/Stephen A Smith that bring the men over to our side
What will probably happen: Kamala Harris wins the D primary and then easily beats the unpopular JD Vance
Your logic fails to emphasize the fact that America and the world sits on the verge of WW3 still being escalated by the Democrats who just lost the endorsement of the American voters. Obstructing at the doorstep of global conflict moves the bar on reason, logic, and your theory.