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In honor of congestion pricing taking effect today, here's a map I made of Manhattan commute patternsโ€”85% of people who work in the borough commute by public transit, walking, or biking (and the share is even higher for workers in the congestion relief zone south of 60th)
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I expect congestion pricing to become more popular after it gets implemented and people see it working (as it did in places like London). Hopefully this builds the political support for congestion pricing schemes in other cities like DC/Bos/LA/Chi/SF/etc
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Natalie Yang
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Notable figures based on survey results from Transport for London: support went from ~40 to 60% in *just one month* before vs after the policy, perceptions of traffic reduction went from ~50 to 70%
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Cars mainly reflect Long Island which has gotten redder already. The political losses have already happened.
Congestion pricing is a good way to show that NYC, a walkable city with 85% of residents utilizing non-car methods of transit, has to accommodate for an entire country dependent on cars. Bike lines are nonexistent, but streets are full of parked cars.
"and the share is even higher for workers in the congestion relief zone south of 60th" How do you know? What are those numbers?
Iโ€™m fully in favor of congestion prices and when I lived in NJ and worked in NYC I commuted by train. The issue was going out with friends itโ€™s cheaper to drive even with congestion prices. Like $25 round trip for a train ticket, so $50 for two people. Iโ€™m incentivized to drive.
Don't worry I'm sure subway surge/congestion pricing will be coming soon enough. Then what?
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it's "primary means of travel to work" and people who mix modes have to pick the one they spend the most time on. So the NJ subway riders are people who spend like 30m on a bus and then 40m on the subway/PATH
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it's "primary means of travel to work" and people who mix modes have to pick the one they spend the most time on. So the NJ subway riders are people who spend like 30m on a bus and then 40m on the subway/PATH

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Idk sounds like he can afford it
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CONGESTION PRICING: Upper East Side resident Andrew lives on 61st street and 5th Avenue, in Congestion "Relief" zone, the second he moves his car, heโ€™s hit with a toll. His kids live on 79th street and he will have to pay congestion price every time he goes to see them.
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This is the strongest argument *for* congestion pricing Iโ€™ve ever seen. For heavenโ€™s sake man, take the train. Or walk.
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CONGESTION PRICING: Upper East Side resident Andrew lives on 61st street and 5th Avenue, in Congestion "Relief" zone, the second he moves his car, heโ€™s hit with a toll. His kids live on 79th street and he will have to pay congestion price every time he goes to see them.
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As a New Yorker, what possible reason is there to drive to Midtown ever day? Masochism?
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Brian Sullivan
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New tax hits NYC drivers. First ever toll for vehicles going from NYC to NYC. $220/month if drive daily (and will go up). Letโ€™s hope $$ used to improve public transit, starting with top to bottom cleanup of Penn Station. My fear is all the extra $$ will just vanish.
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This is not the first toll for drivers traveling within the confines of NYC. There are numerous tolls which have existed for decades, including multiple tunnels and bridges. new.mta.info/tolls
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America has approximately 392 car-friendly metro areas. We can have a single city that prioritizes public transit and penalizes car use in one very specific area. It'll be okay everyone.