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47 percent of voters though Kamala Harris was too progressive, while only 32 percent thought Donald Trump was too conservative. That is the basic story of this election
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The problem with the Harris campaign is a lack of enthusiasm. Donald Trump wants to Make America Again again. Pretty exciting, right? Kamala has offered nothing to the American people, just more of the same.⁩
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Which is why she surrounded herself with Republicans. Kamala ran a good campaign given what she was handed. You can’t really argue with any of her decisions, at least in terms of whether or not they would’ve meaningfully changed anything had they been different.
If a Democrat is tough on immigration but progressive on every other issue, are they still *too progressive*?
Run a candidate who introduced a bill for reparations in the senate, who grew up in E Bay California and Canada … how anyone thought that was an electable fact pattern is amazing (I live in E Bay and have connections to Canada … I’m just stating realities). The Dem elites
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Because Trump is a centrist. Kamala is a progressive. No matter how much you fight this basic truth, it remains true.
Well. She had a huge history of clips to mine to suggest she was too liberal. And she never forcefully established her centrist credentials, instead choosing to attack Trump as an extremist. The post mortem on her campaign should be fun
Trump was the first president to come into office supporting gay marriage. Kamala believes Asian-Americans benefit from “white supremacy”.
The most fundamental reason is that Dems chose a presidential candidate who never won a single primary or caucus, who just rose to the power through dating the most influential politician in the Bay Area.
I would agree with that, and I’m a Reagan-style conservative. In fact, one of the reasons I don’t support Donald Trump is because he is *not* a conservative.
There is a massive disconnect between the average responder to this poll and what these terms mean, the average american voter is a fucking moron and cannot accurately describe their beliefs
These stats are not useful and say more about how those words are viewed by Americans than anything meaningful about policy or strategy.
Yes but I think you coulda replaced her with a several other Dems & it would still be roughly same results. I don’t think it’s about the candidate (somewhat but not a lot), and more about the Party as a whole and what middle of road, non-coastal voters see as who we are.
Partly, though it also maps in some unconventional ways. I think that Harris is too progressive and that Trump is not conservative enough. And I voted for Harris, because those answers are consistent with being center-right, anti-populist, anti-protectionist, and anti-Trump.
What do you think people understand as progressive/liberal? Is it in the policies being proposed, or based on the picture in front of them, Armand?
But what do they mean by that, and are they correct in thinking so? Like is it just on immigration? Measures like abortion, minimum wage, and gun control were pretty popular.
personal theory that women and people of color are perceived as being more left than men. i'd be curious about kamala and AOC vs say bernie or sherrod brown
That’s the people who turned out though. It’s not the country at large. Had she been more progressive, more of her own natural voters would have come out and the responses there would be different.
Rationalization, simple as that. All this time wasted trying to find out why people think they did what they did.
Maybe we need to define and teach what the words ‘progressive’ and ‘conservative’ mean in today’s standards.
The GOP/Trump has been very successful at redrawing the concepts of what progressive/conservative means.
Yep This is how Trump won in 2016 as well I’m sorry but I will always maintain establishment GOP like Rubio, McConnell, Haley, etc normalizing him and anti anti Trumpers who gaslight and say we’re crazy to take him at his word are by far the biggest villains They are the…
Trump's problem isn't being too conservative, anyway. He doesn't have guiding principles beyond self-interest. Now everything rests on Senators Collins and Murkowski and on the justices Trump himself nominated.
These labels are utterly meaningless - and polling about them provides zero guidance for the future of American politics - in a world where “conservative” states overwhelmingly support referenda protecting abortion, increasing the minimum wage, and calling for paid family leave.
Donald Trump is not a conservative. Conservatives respect and want to protect traditions and institutions. Trump is trying to change the face of the government as we know it, discredits the media, and science. There is a name for that and it’s not conservatism.
I buy Bernie's logic. Which isn't to say other issues aren't important, but look at the vote demographics.
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It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.
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