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if your logic made sense then there would be no factories or industries still employing humans, as they would have been automated for cheaper....
whatever roles humans still perform now, will however be able to be replaced by humanoid bots.
Humans still have jobs because robots aren't intelligent enough to perform most tasks, not because robots aren't shaped like humans.
Every technological advancement in history was made with previous versions of technology.
Humanoid robots will be needed for any jobs that require humans.
Humanoids were never intended to replace specialized robots.
They will always have a place serving in spaces shared by
Humans still have jobs because robots aren't intelligent enough to perform most tasks, not because robots aren't shaped like humans.
Once manipulation is solved, simple robot arms, not humanoids, will automate everything.
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Thatโs right, Iโve always said that until cars can be used to assemble other cars, cars are a complete and total scam.
Automotive manufacturers dont claim to have a $42T market opportunity that will automate every single human job.
Asking as an interested observers of the robotics industry. What gives you confidence that purpose-built is better long-term versus simply being better right now? Again, asking without having any affinity for either argument
Jesus Christ calm down. The first ones will obviously have to be built more traditionally. โNot being about to directly clone itselfโ is a nonsensical bar for general utility.
Scam is a stretch. But theyโre not the panacea many think. Itโs a question of volume.
I don't agree. Humanoids have potential in spaces where human-like interaction matters, like caregiving or hospitality. Super-human purpose-built robots may dominate industries needing efficiency, but humanoids aren't necessarily a scam. They're just tackling different use cases.
Humanoid robots building humanoid robots is a silly idea. Just because you have a screwdriver in a swiss army knife, it doesn't mean it's going to be better than an electric screwdriver as a tool to screw screws. Now, if there was any human doing stuff on that video, on the other
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It's "purpose-built".
The argument is kind of silly. Eventually humanoids will be able to build humanoids, but you don't go from 0 to 100 in a flash of lightning.
People will prefer one machine that is highly mobile, looks like them and can do most tasks out of the box.
No one is saying humanoids will replace specialized robots.
The case is for humanoids to replace low/mid skilled labour, like cleaners, road work, some ad hoc handling work in factories.
Specialized industrial robots will still have their place.
โCommercial applications with scaleโ is a narrow enough that โscamโ is a silly word to use.
I was thinking the same thing but didnโt want to get blocked.
I have block fatigue, and could still learn from those who blocked me , paulg, garrytan, lexfridman, etc, but this was exactly my thought (well, my poijt was, you have the robots, use them, this is what 3d printers
That battle is already won. Humanoids are entering a race 40 years after it started.
You're only thinking about one small aspect of the total potential market for humanoid robots. Sure, in big factories it will be more efficient to use large, purpose-built machines. But there are dozens of other tasks humans currently do that robots could.
Also, think military
This argument doesn't hold water. The hypothesis is that humanoid robots will be more versatile in open ended settings humans operate in. Using specialist robots for fixed tasks is not a counterexample.
Not entirely true. There are some things humanoids will not accel at, which larger-scale industrial robots are purpose-built for.
The main benefits of humanoid robots is that they can perform close-to-or-better than humans at tasks that might require human-level dexterity.
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The future of automated manufacturing will likely be one or both of the following approaches:
1. Newly developed workflows consisting of specialized robotic systems orchestrated together.
2. General purpose humanoid robots leveraging existing factories and human workflows.
humanoids are purpose built
not sure how the automatic crop dusters going to cook eggs and do my laundry chief
Isnโt this just critical theory?
Like if I think a screwdriver is better in certain applications than a hammer, Iโm part of the problem?
Or like if a vacuum is better for picking up a plastic screen than fingers in this case?
Not really a valid point. We are still in the beginning stages of the humanoid robot revolution.
"scam"? No. Different tools for different jobs / stages.
So, the post is either annoying engagement bait (so ignore the poster)
or shows a surprising level of ignorance / blindness (so ignore the company).
Purpose built robots for all domestic activities would be far too cost prohibitive. Unlike AI, generalist robots are the future for domestic applications. Manufacturing, generalized robots are overkill, as the tasks have only tiny amounts of variation and neednโt roam about.
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We were created by previous generation (our parents), and will create the next one. A tech at start is not a scam, itโs early stage.
who do you think builds those specialized robots? humans? 
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This is why I laugh when people say humanoid robots will be building themselves. Most manufacturing is automated at this point.
yea in manufacturing you want the robots to be fast not versatile but any other application you want then to be able to do a wide range of tasks
this is nonsense, I'm sorry. actual high skilled humans cannot do anything shown in this video replicably at the pace needed for mass manufacture.
The compiler is always a different language until the compiled language is mature. Then the compiler is written in the same language that it is compiling. You have to start somewhere.
The world is built for humans, so a humanoid robot will be able to do everything a human can. Itโs a general solution, not specialized, and will this be much more valuable. Think about this more deeply and you will understand.
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Ahhhโฆ. There announcement states they are using humanoids at the factoryโฆ
The world is designed to be manually operated by humanoids.
Switching in a humanoid robot for a human is infinitely easier, especially in the short run, than re-engineering each individual piece of technology.
Take housekeeping for example. It is either going to be done by
There are machines specialized for high volume high precision work. Autonomous robots don't need, won't have the high volume capabilities.
Commercial at scale is a few billion per year, they want the trillions that are not commercial at scale.
Yea say it louder! All these videos donโt even have these things manipulating stacks or bulk material.
You will need humanoid robots to oversee the factory robots to keep them in line and working efficientlyโฆ
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No, itโs proof that THEIR humanoids are a scam.
Part 1 is a terrible take. Part 2 is spot on.
Humanoids arenโt a scam, theyโre a compromise. For scenarios where you havenโt defined the exact workflow necessary to get a job done, and you need something that can sacrifice efficiency and accuracy for general capability,
scam is an extreme overreach. humanoids = assembly, machinery boat = manufacturing parts
These humanoid robots move worse than a 90 year old with arthritis. Its like asking your grandma to do the dishes and bring the groceries in from the car.
Isnโt that like the old โwhy donโt 3D printers print 3D printers?โ
I get how this intitial thought sparked in your head but you clearly liked the sound of it enough you refused to question it
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Some tasks are well suited some arenโt. When youโre replacing humans in an existing process, thatโs completely different than designing a manufacturing process from the ground up. If your new manufacturing process requires humanoids you likely suck at manufacturing
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Arent these humanoid robots consumer focused? Like I-robot style home assistant? Makes sense to me, has to be able to navigate an environment made for humans.
It's like saying power tools are a scam because DeWalt doesn't manufacture their products with a sawzall and a hand
But I just want it to clean my house, clothes, cook, clean the dishes, take out the trash, cut the lawn, fix some bs here and there. Do I need a robot for each of those?
Humanoids for off site and homes. I thought this was obvious.
This is a really dumb take. Humanoid robots accurate robotic intelligence because they can be trained by human actions
Well I donโt want to call you a retard but
The humanoids run machines like this, because making these parts is done with large machines
Those machines are called โtoolsโ
Humanoid robots use tools to make things
You gotta either go back to college or get a refund
General purpose robots will have their spot, same as purpose built.
Calling one a scam, just makes you look intellectually dishonest.
youre retarded. the world is made for humans. you canโt automate what humans physically do without matching the form factor
super-human purpose-built robots will do things humans do not do
humanoids will do things humans do or things humans dislike in places designed for humans
The problem with your analysis is that humanoid robots are not intended to do one simple menial task, repeated over and over again, but rather be adaptable to multiple tasks in a world designed for humans.
Absolutely idiotic take. Humans doesnโt work in high throughput automated manufacturing so why should humanoids.
That's like saying all humans should manufacture things now manually. Dumb statement.
Your statement makes it clear you have very little understanding of manufacturing.
Do you even know what is going on in the clip?