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I think this is right, but I also think it's time for Schumer to fall on his sword here, take the blame, and let a younger generation take the wheel.
What's the purpose of being an unpopular elder statesman leader if not to eat the sin so the next leader is blameless?
This is roughly where I had it.
Don’t force the shutdown for nothing. If it’s just a normal bill let it fly.
If they are poison pilling the bill then grind it to a halt, but then you can stand on principal and say “no, and here is exactly why”.
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Is this really just extending Bidens budget? I heard talk there’s a whole bunch of changes like increasing defense, decreasing education, decreasing oversight on what musk is doing, etc. If it was just extending Biden’s budget, I see no reason to oppose it, but I thought there
to be fair it “maintains spending” as part of a wink nod agreement that Doge will move forward slashing at will, and the entire might of the admin was villainize judges in a way that I fear will be accepted if not fully normalized. they’ve already successfully brainwashed people
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Yeah. I don't think Schumer is totally wrong, I just think the way he presents it is stupid. Just say:
"Well they're not cutting Medicade and the budget is mostly the same so we'll hold our fire for now."
That's all he has to say.
IMO, this is the 100% correct and non-emotional response. Thank you for sharing and providing this important counterpoint to the prevailing Democratic response.
The problem is not necessarily what he wants to do, it's how he has done it. Why let so many moderate and swing state dems go on the record and THEN turn around and say you're a yes? It shows weak leadership
This isn’t true. You can google for five seconds and see this isn’t true.
So essentially you lied.
It is not true for instance that this maintains 2024 levels of spending. It does for *some* things, but not for things that republicans hate, deeper cuts in those cases. Also makes it harder to take tariff power from Trump.
What about all the poison pills removing oversight and allowing impoundment? This isn’t just a continuation of Biden’s budget?
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but historically the party blamed for the shutdown is the majority party, especially among the kinds of low-information voters dems lost in 2024.
did you read the CR or? It just is not a clean bill, it literally factually does not keep spending levels the same.
This is not a clean CR - it's not enough that the topline is the same. Also, unlike any other budget, it gives Trump a slushfund.
The issue with the CR is that by removing many of the line items that have traditionally been in the budget, it legitimizes DOGE and transfers the power of the purse from Congress to the Executive Branch.
Polling shows the majority of the public will blame Republicans. History confirms the party in power is usually blamed.
Voters have listened to Republicans talk about their "electoral mandate" for months. Republicans control the government. Let them reap the results.
1. Your legal analysis is wrong, see what litigants are saying: therevolvingdoorproject.org/schumer-argume
2. On specifics, owing to inflation, these numbers are declining (PLUS WASHINGTON DC!!!)
3. Musk already shutting down government AS PUBLIC KNOWS, so resort to history re polling is silly.
Whenever I hear it called a CR, I’m surprised because of the rest of what is in it…how can they even call it that? A clean CR doesn’t cede Congress’s authority to POTUS for anything, let alone declare reality as unimportant (“a day is not a day”)
I’m not sure your analysis of the CR is correct. Lots of spending cuts, including draconian hits to DC. This is not a continuation of Biden’s budget. Similarly, Rs have a trifecta. It’s on them to keep the government open. Before Schumer that would have been the narrative.
This is in no way a Biden cr and you know it- critically important demand to take millions of dollars from needed programs from needy people was never a ‘democratic’ thing!
That argument’s well and dandy but why didn’t Schumer make it BEFORE a bunch of swing district House Dems stuck their necks out by voting no? Total political malpractice.
Get bent. Polls have come in that blame Rs more. Dems can pivot to "let's pass a clean CR, we can do it today. Then actually invite us to negotiations" Then they can discuss the illegal and unconstitutional DOGE acts & hammer R budget plans. The one thing you *can't* is roll over
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How it it "maintaining Biden's budget" if Trump and Musk have to power to make unilateral cuts wherever they want? That makes no sense
Others have said this and I haven't seen your response, but this seems factually untrue? You seem to be describing a "clean CR" in your text, but that's not what is happening. There are in fact changes to the previous Biden budget that are bad and Dems rolled over on!
It's a continuation of the Biden budget in technicality only. Increase in spending for ICE, massive decrease in spending to IRS and Washington DC. Still, I think you may be right, the narrative is antagonizing Trump right now and that could very well change.
The CR gives the administration cover to claim that Congress endorses the unconstitutional power grab they have been engaged in since Jan 20. Would have been better for Dems to refuse to have a part in it. But agree that they would have needed unity to dig in for the long haul.
Isn't there domestic spending cuts in CR? Also provision that members of congress can't obstruct tariffs
It was not a clean CR and it does much more than just continue Biden's Admin spending levels. To say that it just does that is disingenuous. Several more agencies were targeted for closure enabled by that spending bill. Be honest please.
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"If the Democrats shutdown the government" is absolute BS dishonest framing. Republicans are in charge. If they can't pass a budget, they own that.
the base isn’t looking for this “well technically…” type reasoning. That shit is why democrats look like pussies. People want Dems to fucking fight for the working class.
Then why are so many house dems saying this is not a continuation of Bidens budget?
Nobody has been able to explain what they would get from a shutdown. Doge is unpopular right now but to the typical person, the person chuck Schumer has as an imaginary friend, they may just see in the media the democrats allows a shutdown.
Bro, stop lying to your family and friends.
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Wifey made these exact points to some of her friends and it did not land well. Tactics absent of strategy is pointless theater but ppl really wanna see it.
Right, but Russian and Republican propaganda tells me Schumer is signing over control of all three branches to Musk and as such by this time next week everyone will be living in concentration camps.
Didn’t it do something to the DC annual budget being capped or something?
I agree, but I think its important to caveat that the 2024 budget wasn’t a liberal budget either, since it was passed by a Republican congressional majority in 2024.
But it's NOT the Democrats shutting the government down. The Republicans have control of Congress.
Historically, the republicans have extracted massive concessions and galvanized their base through shutdowns. Everyone has caught on that the democrats don’t want to resist their agenda and the people hate you all.
Joe Biden said the quiet part out loud: they want to lock Trump up and throw away the key.
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Ok, but who do I have to marry to get into the family & friends group chats?
That’s not what the CR includes….might keep the same top line number but allocation is detrimental to our debt and profit-generating programs. Irresponsible of you to gloss that over.
Republicans have the house, senete, White House, and the courts. This isn’t on Dems.
The only way you could possibly think it’s on Dems is, for once I’ll agree, if the Dems have a “messaging issue”.
the problem with your little theory is that the GOP can pass CR on their own - they control both houses of congress - so if there is a shutdown, its on them
Republicans will be blamed for the shutdown. Check the polling. They will cave.
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This was not a clean CR so I don't know how you get "it maintains the Biden budget"
isn’t every single sentence uncontroversially wrong? It’s not a clean CR, polling shows most people would blame Repubs, and a shutdown wouldn’t negatively effect any litigation at all. this isn’t even really the reasoning given by Schumer
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And add that a govt shutdown would also shut down the courts after a bit, leaving the Musk-and-also-Trump presidency to do their damage unhinged and unleashed.
What a bunch of bullshit. Trump is going to blame them regardless, now he can say they consented.
Looks like the fascist left is coming for you. As you should know, they cannot abide reality when it doesn’t fit their naive ideological narrative. Come over to the GOP, we’ll treat you with respect and root for your success rather than try and tear you down
anyone and everyone should support shutting down the government whenever it is an option.
This isn't extending Biden's budget and we just lost all leverage. A whole ass paragraph wasn't necessary to be this wrong
so you’re just lying to friends and family on Schumer’s behalf lol
It's hard to tell which faction is more desperate for power here...the 'moderates' or flaming progressives
Who's telling the story? Give me a break. We've seen the things in this bill and the license it gives to Trump and Musk to continue hurting people. Now it just codifies it.
Joe Biden said the quiet part out loud: they want to lock Trump up and throw away the key.
Your read of the situation, on many levels, is off base. 1. Congress has sole authority for appropriations, 2. Congress has executive oversight authority, 3. Republicans want to destroy the U.S. The only right move is filibuster. Be a mensch, replace your post with a retraction.
Because of the cloture vote, the Democrats could be blamed for the shutdown, a political risk. The more serious risk would be additional chaos in the economy, plus the fact that it wasn't clear what the Democrats might realistically gain. As you note, DOGE already seems illegal.
If it’s a real Biden CR without draconian cuts and more power for Trump, there won’t be a shutdown because Dems will be voting for it. You’re a clueless af wannabe “reporter,” spreading misinformation to both your family group chat and the public.
That’s a mia characterization of what’s in this CR. it gives away Congress’ power to review Trump’ “emergency” tariffs and codified much of Musk’s DOGE damage. If it were just a clean CR, Dems would support it. But it’s not that. Look into it
This just isn’t true. There are $500B in cuts in this dirty CR as well as a provision giving up the ability to reign in the trump tariffs.
You either didn't read the CR or are just lying to folks - this CR makes real changes to the '24 budget that will make it easier for Trump to redirect spending legally (putting aside their promise to continue doing so illegally)
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A quick look at the GOP CR shows there are 22 different instances in the bill where funding for certain programs is set at $0.
If it just maintains Biden’s budget, then why are they talking about the City of DC’s local government losing a billion dollars from this?
How do they answer the fact that it’s not Biden’s budget lmao
It’s not the Biden 2024 budget, they plan to slash multiple things. This is no clean CR.
Not to mention, now the story instead of "Republicans own their failure" is "Democrats cave to Trump, GOP wins again!" fwiw, PLUS the cuts to DC and tacit signoff on DOGE and Trump cutting and ignore impoundment law
Yeah, I figured this was probably how it was going to end up. Putting the government in this much chaos to begin with pretty much took the "We'll cause chaos if you don't do what we want" card out of Dems' hands.
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I think this makes sense. The choice was either keep the government open and let Trump dig a deeper hole or shut down the government and give Trump license to destroy the government.
Only coz you and your media friends keep saying its thr Dems fault. You spread lies.
A Uniparty majority has run Congress since Gingrich left town and continues the Biden-level print, borrow and spend in this CR. Conversely, another Democrat “government shutdown” would allow Trump to fund what he wanted and close the rest.