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People unwilling to change self-purging is probably the best outcome for everyone.
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Samantha J. Gross
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Scooplet: Congressman Seth Moulton's campaign manager and PAC director confirms he resigned after comments the Salem Democrat made about transgender athletes in the NYT on Thursday. #mapoli bostonglobe.com/2024/11/08/met
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How do you undo the nightmare situation where leftwing groups directly financially benefit from the right being in power and doing awful things, and financially lose out from the Democrats being in power and doing moderate things?
Democrats will soon be wedged on trans privilege. Will they continue to push for the demands of trans at the cost of power? Doubtful, but might take 3 election losses to realize it.
I find it uncharacteristic that you arenโ€™t able to distinguish an Obama/civil unions-style moderate message on this (I trust the governing body of The Wolverines and Buckeyes as experts) and Moultonโ€™s mask-off bigotry framing (trans women are men [trans women donโ€™t exist]).
I struggle with this. I think this issue is so blown out of proportion it's ridiculous. I also understand why the father of a daughter might feel a certain way. Somehow dems have to support the trans community while also sounding reasonable.
seems to me whether it be this scenario or the amount of people who ran to threads that there's certain people who legit can not handle hearing anything that challenges their beliefs and may even contribute to the swing to the right on here
The problem is if they throw trans people under the bus, they lose a lot of their young volunteers and donors, and have to switch to the GOP strategy of paid mercenaries. Plus billionaire donors disproportionally have trans kids. An unenviable bind to be in.
Embarrasing that he felt pressure to resign over something that should be the Democrat party position. Persons born men should have their own division or play with the boys.
Continuing to hold religious fervor for transgender nonsense and shunning everyone that slightly disagrees is a fantastic strategy to win elections. So definitely keep doing it.
Holding the line at โ€œthe government shouldnโ€™t discriminate against trans childrenโ€ is good, actually. Iโ€™m fine with less heckling or name calling, but the level of hate leveled at trans kids is insane and these kids deserve SOME protection.
Yeah, if you can't become more bigoted, it's better you drop out. You guys are on the right and winning side of history for sure
I believe in recent polling 85% of Americans did not approve of a biological male who transitioned to female should compete against their daughters. Not exactly a controversial take. If Dems wanna die on that hill they will lose a lot of elections ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
Realistically Trump is going to impose a bunch of mean spirited anti-trans policy which is going to spark a backlash and thermostatic counterreaction and both mods and progs are gonna end up assailing him for it
The problem with giving in on any culture war battle against the right is they just make up a new one tomorrow. Worry more about what makes people want to vote for you.
Campaigns and political staffs need armies of ideological young people willing to put in crazy hours for little pay. Are there people like that who are also willing to permit the politicians they work for to moderate on cultural issues?
People self-purging because they won't accede to Queer theory struggle sessions is good? What people don't seem to understand, everyone gets struggled eventually.
lol gonna be lit in 2026 when Democrats take back Congress and all commentariat now will absolutely say nothing about the GOP being unwilling to change
Moulton is signaling to transphobes and that's obvious to everyone, but he's also being an idiot. Republicans support extreme measures against trans people. He's accepting their framing instead of taking the fight to them. It's loser behavior
This is not a binary issue. No one is saying that Dems should abandon trans rights issues. All we are saying is can we moderate a bit and let some issues develop organically? For example, do we have to insist on boys in girls sports?
"Change" is wonderfully ambiguous. Queerphobia isn't a change in our society, it's fundamental. On the other hand, over-willingness to change one's principles indicates not having any (except power).
Dems should think hard about what might be in store for trans people under Trump before they lean into publicly abandoning them for political capital. We're not even close to an election nor is there a vote or anything on the table so it's not even politically expedient.
People leaving the party in droves whats the solution? Oh I know throw another minority group under the bus The whole reason the border issue was effective this time was Ds completely conceding the issue to Rs People remember โ€œno human is illegalโ€ just 4 years ago
self defeating for a political party to put purification above growth. luckily the leadership knows this. white progressives, only some of them do.
Matt, our best hope is that a few pro-life Republicans win elections going forward while still believing in Social Security and Medicare. Stop being more optimistic than that. It's Vance Republicans vs. Libertarian Republicans. Stop kidding yourself.
Dems need to standup to the cancel culture "religious" orthodoxy power play of the left. The whole microaggression, cancel culture, mis/dis/malinformation thought/speech policing of the left is an authoritarian social control move and the voters screamed
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There were a lot of people a week ago wondering why Trump was spending so much money on anti-trans ads instead of economy ads. It's because the left has gone way too far on trans rights issues, and the voters don't like it. That's why.
Looks like weโ€™ll be winning elections for the immediate future. Love how you freaks are eating each other up. #Delish
And in your increasingly worthless and embarrassing opinion, itโ€™s the people willing to protect trans rights that should self-purge from the dem party? Jesus Christ man, log the fuck off.
This is why the trans issue is so fundamental to Harris's loss; it causes even normally sensible Dems like Yglesias to believe things about human sex that are completely divorced from reality