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PSA: If worried about bad luck entering the US, consider pre-cleared flights. Afaict, some flights from airports like Dublin, Vancouver, Toronto, do passport control *before* boarding. Any issues happen on foreign soil/laws. No need for a return flight or risk of ICE detention
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Pre-cleared flights seem to land at US domestic terminals? Allowing passengers to exit without meaningful security or border control? I think chances of entry are unchanged, but lower downside. But I've only recently learned about it, so *low confidence*. More data appreciated!
Determining which flights are pre-cleared seems badly documented. Some airports have both pre-cleared and non-pre-cleared flights to the US. Only 15 airports do pre-clearance at all.
The best way I've found is looking up the landing terminal and determining if it's in the domestic or international section of an airport. Note: San Francisco *International* Airport has both international *and* domestic terminals
no - you have to fly to Dublin / Canada, then change. It is quite an investment by the US to set them up - as they need passport control agents in the foreign airport.
It feels like we're near/at the point where sharing information like this is dangerous, because they are arresting people for "assisting illegal immigration"
You still have to go through official US passport control, run by the CBP, same as a normal flight. It's just done before take off. It's a convenience thing, illegal immigration should still get stopped
I know people who have done this so that if there were any problems they wouldn't be detained. In their case it worked smoothly.
3/3 flying out of Vancouver on three different airlines this year. You just land in the domestic terminal and walk off like a domestic flight
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Yes, most Canadian airports have it, as well as a few other random ones like Dublin and Abu Dhabi. I'm using these exclusively going forward, as a Canadian citizen they can't claim I'm not authorized to go back 'home'.