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I saw a stat saying that not one US port is on the top 50 in the world. It's hard to believe if true.
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Yes, we need to improve growth and make Americans better off via automating our ports at the same level as Netherlands and China. Also, automating just makes sense at this point.
Why aren't the ports automated already? They're like attached to the most important economic zone in the world.
That's the magic question...
How to move the workers into another path without diminishing their lifestyles? Implement automation slowly as the union members retire or put them all on unemployment and for how long? Same could be said for federal employees.
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I think those stats are staggering. Just one ship increase and 0.67% boost in trade - that's massive.
How much is coming IN to the Port compared to how much is going OUT of the Port
Can we start automation plans while they are on strike. Never bring them back.
how does it create more jobs? It woudl be eliminating jobs at port and putting them elsewhere.
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The work is good for testosterone. We live in an abundant society. Keep the people working, keep communities alive.
Just a thought
and imagine if the Jones Act were repealed - the harbors could be dredged and bigger, more efficient, vessels could carry the goods.
I don't know whether this happened in the 50s but a similar fight had to be had when ports went from wooden crates that needed lots of labor and steel containers.
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I don't quite understand the statistic. Is it increasing the port by one berth, so they simultaneously process one more ship than before? How many extra ships would that be in a year?
And when they come to automate *your* job, there will be no one left willing to speak for you.
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What if I told you that one clause of a century old piece of maritime legislation has prevented cities in the Midwest from getting container ports, and adds like 10% to the cost of living in Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico
Kind of a whitepill that there are still trillion dollar bills laying around on the side walk. Also kind of blackpilling we haven't managed to bend over and pick them up yet.
Invoke Taft Hartley and implement automation now. It’s absurd that the longshoremen make $150,000+
It is like the US car industry in 1988! Unions crippling our national progress
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Every 5 years or so, university systems offer retirement incentives to free up money, to downsize, or for new, cheaper hires. Any deal here really should be one that membership can't refuse, and which stipulates no restrictions or hinderances on automation. Buy them out.
Oh no we can't unload stuff manufactured overseas faster? Oh no the horror. (Rolls eyes)
You’re overselling. If ports were automated in 2019, they wouldn’t have built 30% more capacity than usual demand just because they are automated, so when a 30% demand shock came in after the pandemic, we would still have backlogs at the ports.
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I honestly believe we should just pay the union off. Offer a 100% pay increase if they accept unlimited automation.
offer $1,000,000 buyouts for people to "retire"
Harold J. Danggit is sure getting the fact-check his fat arrogance deserves.
and when automation fails (which it does in this application constantly) you lose 2 ships per year per port. you dont know jack shit
Maybe, but what happens to the longshoremen who are then laid off? Please don't say "Oh, they'll find another job". 7 million working age men have grown so discouraged that they've left the workforce. Automating ports would add to the total, and welfare rolls would increase.
Unions rely on coercion to exist and to function.
Unions are evil organizations.
Cancers on business and society.
The corps rationally want higher profits. The union rationally wants more money and job security.
Why can't there be a profit sharing arrangement that does both? Give longshoreman a dividend based on automation.
And...the real reasons they dont want automation and cameras all over our ports? The ILA leader is a Made Man in the Genovese crime mob and you can better believe there are mobbed up footsoldiers ALL OVER OUR PORTS committing crimes the automation and cams will STOP IT
Unfortunately for all of us Machines can't vote or make campaign contributions. (Yet)
every day that ports are not being automated - is a disgrace and malice from JILL BIDEN