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That whole account is a dumb person’s idea of what a smart person sounds like. I’ve read their threads. They say so much and yet nothing at all

Most data scientists are bad enough programmers that I would need to see the code first before making any judgements instead of just believing she's lying

I don’t know anything about that account, but you’re clearly misreading. Person isn’t saying the processing caused the overheating. They’re saying it overheated due to environmental reasons after processing 60k rows. Come on.

A “data expert” who thinks 60,000 is a Huge enough number people will buy the “overheated my hard drive”. It’s layers upon layers of half-assed grift, manipulation and the stupid scamming the stupid.

To be fair MAGAs fall victim to a lot of scams are probably prone to clicking on viruses.

i had never heard of this person until today and it blew my mind. any laptop in the last ~10 years could load 60k rows into memory with python. lmao

You aren't reading carefully. The claim is that the hard drive overheated before it could complete a full pass. The claim isn't that the hard drive failed during the initial run when processing only the first 60,000 rows.

Reading comprehension dropped a lot for you on that one. They said they did a pass on the first 60,000 records no problem. They did not claim that they overheated their hard drive doing so..

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Sarah Longwell

@SarahLongwell25

This is the “analyst” who demonstrated (falsely) all the people who were supposedly funded by USAID. This person need not be taken remotely seriously. They do get a lot of Elon RTs tho!

Oh I love it when non devs think they know stuff. Your laptop could overheat after 100 rows if the query is complex enough. To mock and laugh without knowing details is some serious midwit shit.

Pretty clear it says 60k rows were processed in initial run. Separately, the hard drive overheated long before she completed a full pass through the database

My guess is that only a technologically ignorant and/or exceedingly disingenuous person would think this is necessarily a condemning burn. I do appreciate that it exposes the irrational bias though.

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Mark Soares

@markkasaurus

That's not what they said; they said they scanned the first 60k rows and didn't find any awards; then they said their hard drive overheated well before being able to scan the whole thing, which would be the entirety of the database (probably a monumental amount of data).

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oh no, someone notify my cloud provider, their hard drives are on fire after processing exactly 18,997,421,456 rows of data

i’ve run spreadsheets smaller than this that have caused thermal throttling - although i am uncertain whether it was the CPU or the SSD (both of which often have throttles)

One of the apps I wrote that I'm genuinely proud of produced a statistics report for keyword usage over a world-spanning, decentralized, distributed NoSQL database. It had an intermediate table with a billion rows. Took about four hours to run on 2010 hardware.

Yeah I have melted hardware on less data than that because my sql was bad. In an unrestricted homebrewed environment it isn't even hard.

In fairness, she was using a Radio Shack TRS-80.

It may very well be depending on what the processing is. Hashing each row 100 trillion times rereading from disk each time would get it toasty indeed

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prithaj

@prithajnath

I feel like they meant the query generated (as opposed to processed) 60k rows? Even intro level Kaggle datasets have more than 60k rows but don't need db processing

No Red Text

@NoRedText

18h

No, she doesn't. She says that while processing the whole dataset her harddrive overheated, having completed the processing for the first 60k rows. Don't think she has specified exactly how she does her processing, but given it involves finding multiple layers of connections

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The Information

@theinformation

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60k result set

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DataRepublican (small r)

@DataRepublican

Mar 14

Replying to @molly0xFFF

The US Spending database is multiple terabytes large. It literally does not fit in any of the standard Macbook Air builds.

I just don’t get why she’s using a laptop

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SandersToo.

@SandersLead

That's not what she said or implied.

Dave Gilbert

@docgotham

She's highly technical; you'd probably enjoy following her.

Is this a doge person???

Memory is fine tho.

This is not the attitude that gets us to Mars.

Read it again, that isn’t what they said.

Were they using an Apple II!?

Ralph Kaladin

@Navarre2001

17h

She didn't claim that.

What’s your favourite db?

vibecoding for sure

This is really just politicized nonsense.

Hans Schulzke

@HSchulzke

“Processing” and “rows” aren’t static terms. What operations are applied to the rows? Are the operations iterative and considering a single row? My day job is pulling and manipulating data in applications, and I work with datasets anywhere from a few thousands records to

Motown Boy

@motown5203

My IBM XT with a 10 mb hard drive could have done that 35 years ago. Someone is embellishing, maybe?

cleared this up with great detail. you have this one wrong

Tedward Stickel

@StickelTedward

What did the processing consist of, Mr. Smith?

Rez

@Rezsa

21h

depends on the row size, object sizes in those rows, and compute per cell. are you retarded?

Sevenders

@SevendersOTW

Aren't you a wordcel? Isnt it bad that you cannot read or parse English?

Beezy

@BeezyManzell

Professor Business Waffles

I've gotten better performance querying databases of 60 million rows on a ten year old city owned computer. It really sucks how many liars and frauds get ahead. In this decade, it seems more reliable than talent or skill.

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Jordan Ross

@jordan_ross_8F

The reason most 7-figure founders stay stuck? They refuse to fire themselves from operations. You don’t need another funnel. You need to: •Document •Delegate •Delete

Apparently they were using a 5400rpm WD400EB over IDE with a 2MB cache on Win 98. So many happy BSOD memories.

My father in law is a data scientist. It is difficult to get his attention when he's lost in wonder in a spreadsheet. We were looking at data together years ago and I asked him if we could go over 60,000 rows. I will never forget his answer "We can't, we don't know how anymore"

Gonna be honest

. You might not like

ideologically, but her CS bona fides are a lot higher than yours. I saw that and went huh and thought to myself: well, I don't know exactly what she's doing, so not gonna say anything.

If you want to look for a weakness in your ideological opponent, I wouldn't start with technical incompetence. I could blow up your computer with 5k rows if you let me specify the data set and the computation.

I mean, that might make sense... if the rows were 60 quintillion columns wide. And the hard drive was being used as virtual memory. And they were working on a laptop. In a sauna.

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@prof_biz_waffle

How does she even know that her hard drive overheated? Is this happening on a laptop, a desktop, or a cloud server? At work I process large data sets using either Hadoop or Flume. At home, I use my gaming rig with a RAID NAS for handling large data sets.

The responses to this from MAGA show how polarization / dunking emotionally prime people to lose sight of the big picture. The big picture is that a person who can't query the database successfully shouldn't be so influential on Musk's thinking.

@Dylanloveshoops

“Data expert” running a hard drive from like 80’s? This is either a demonstrable lie or for whatever reason the most decrepit hardware ever is being used here.

Doesn't this depend on what processing is being done on those rows? In the quant world even 10k rows can thrash my local hardware with all the feature extraction applied to it.

James Carruthers

@HydraulicDesign

Senator Tim Whatley (no anti-dentites, please)

People running software that actually does a lot of complex stuff, you read the problems they have and it's not "this melted my computer," you absolutely NEVER hear that, it's "Why is this only using 12% of my CPU and none of my GPU, what did I buy all this for?"

@senator_tim

She's a data scientist with multiple patents and a career of working for the biggest names in tech. I think I'll trust that she has some idea of what she's doing.

I imagine it's possible this could happen if you're using a computer from the 1970s

Definitely possible if she writes really bad code

I knew she was on your radar. Perhaps you can chat with her on Econ 102?

Hey, give her a break. It really impresses the boomers whose biases she is confirming with her “data.”

Robert Parks

@robert_parks_

The bar for being a "republican" data scientist is incredibly low

c0t0d0

@su_tomasz

笨笨一號 - Attritable Stratospheric Balloon

The hard drive (IBMs first 5MB storage from the 50s):

@e____e_e____e

I knew I was right to mute this person awhile ago. I saw a ton of people I respect following them and was like why are any of you taking this person seriously lol they know how to use the right lingo but they have none of the actual understanding or experience

no one

@n0bodygoaway

I thought this was pretty funny, too, but when I dug in it didn’t actually seem that crazy. She apparently had the entire huge dataset on her external hard drive and was querying it locally (there are pros/cons) vs sending a request to a remote server.

Bizarro Trump

@BizarroTrump10

RedRedSuit - yes, am a Jew

Holy Compaq Batman.

@RedRedSuit

Who Is the Anonymous Data Expert Telling Elon Which Cuts to Make?

I don’t even know where to begin with this.

No one cares

@Nooneca18741270

12h

Something is super fishy about this whole account. rollingstone.com/politics/polit. These people are all Thiel plants.

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João

@joao_sojoao9

18h

That is not what he is saying. He says in a sample of 60k rows he did not find any awards. Before finish running a full pass, his hard drive overheated.

Genome Guy

@lazy_faecium

SmallDataRepublican (I do like her and share her politics though, don't get it twisted)

Lobster Phone

@MrLobsterPhone

I think 60,000 is the reasoned but arbitrary limit for an Excel file. She might be trying to do her calculations there

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GlobalSouthEconomics

@Tranquility8888

I’ve processed 19 million records from the world trade data and it was done before I could even reach my microwave to press the warm up button

Anthony Trant

@conspacenerd

She didn’t claim that was the reason for the overheat. She’s a computer nerd probably over clocking and custom box.

Jacob Frautschi

@JacobFrautschi

11h

doesn’t matter how many rows, nor how big those rows are (and a row could theoretically be of any size). hard drives don’t overheat.

"The dog ate my HDD"

If it did that, it definitely melted at least one floppy disk.

you should read the rest of her comments. she knows more about databases and how they work than nearly any analyst i have ever met. (db specialist here)

Probably using Google Sheets. This is why we have Excel.

William Carpenter

@wcarpenter58

They’re not sending their best!

Surfer_on_X

@Surferonx777

My Raspberry Pi has overheated doing pretty mundane stuff.

Excel Tough Guys think "running a query on stuff" is remotely as taxing on a PC as even playing a modern video game.

William Newsom

@WNewsom

It's 60k rows, but 100 trillion columns.

Bite

@Bite73317463

Should try it on their 10 year old smart watch instead

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Freedom Or Death

@Sebastian2424

Depends how many columns

John Appleby

@JohnApplebyLD

I believe MAGA drives overheat when the data contradicts their beliefs.

L. Burke Files

@FEEInc

Ya, that used to happen on my old 386!

Alex

@Schauer01

Really Noah... you too?

mickey

@mickshappyhour

I’m a subscriber of yours. Do better.

Nate Merrill

@DrNateme16

Ok I'll bite, many columns?

Ebeneezer Goode

@ebenezeer1885

In Excel? Entirely possible

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Romeo No. 5

@TonyRoma1992

Can hard drives even overheat? Or did they mean the cpu. Also those don’t really overheat either. They do run slower to reduce heat, and have fans. Usually.

Shaun Parker

@ShaunPa84241038

17h

You are a sad little person.

TheSphinx

@TheSphinxRocks

What a crock. Commodore 64s don't have hard drives.

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@ETBowden

Any thoughts on her findings?

Rose Mauro

@RDBMauro

I’ve worked a lot with government data. Whether things look messy or not, the first thing I would suspect is not technical incompetence on the part of the analyst, it’s a lack of subject matter knowledge.

Tim Spalding

@librarythingtim

Speak & Spell acting up again.

tort

@Robyn4110122680

17h

just bollocks about isa's and inference compute. ecosystems? HR fragility?

JoelMaHarry

@JoelMaHarry

Macro Data Refinement: Where processing rows of data never ends, even in the case of hard drive immolation.

arpad szeghalmi

@ArpadSzeghalmi

Complaining about hdd overheating while processing 60000 rows is literally incompetence even Excel handles that like a champ it's over the top on mem but still works flawlessly

NINA SCROTENBERG

@hashallthehash

It totally crashed her 286

Jamie Andrews

@jamieandrews

18h

The problem with Twitter is that both of you are making such short statements about complex things that it's impossible for either you or the person you are commenting on to fully explain what they mean, so we end up with this pointless tribal mudslinging

Cormac N

@daily_standu

You’re doing it again Noah, intentionally acting dumb to make a weak point

Craig (vote YES)

@GibbleFenwick

I hate to be fair to such scum, but… They successfully processed 60k (a subset of all data), and didn’t find what they were looking for. But that’s as far as the “fair” goes. Their hard drive “overheated” processing the full data set???

GIF

WWTD- what would Tony do

@Acent80Anthony

14h

You’re truly retarded.

hatred and bias makes people like you make bad calls. Read the subsequent explanations from

Yeah she’s clearly not smart. You all are way way smarter.

diane vk

@DianeVk5816

Reading and comprehension are not your forte.

𝕄𝕚𝕟𝕠𝕤

@minos_felix

Here's someone who "thinks" that processing 60,000 rows means scanning 60,000 rows

as opposed to, say, an obviously more appropriate scenario of running some complex query which produces or updates 60,000 rows... Cheers!

YetiPersisted

@YPersisted