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Ethan Mollick
‪@emollick.bsky.social‬
👀Today’s AIs are already hyper persuasive. A controversial study where LLMs tried to persuade users on Reddit found that: “Notably, all our treatments surpass human performance substantially, achieving persuasive rates between three and six times higher than the human baseline.”
April 28, 2025 at 10:20 AM
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They also compared personalized AI to the most persuasive human experts:"Remarkably, Personalization ranks in the 99th percentile among all users and the 98th percentile among experts, critically approaching thresholds that experts associate with the emergence of existential AI risks"
Is the human baseline just users of the subreddit or are they humans specifically told they can lie about their own experiences? Most humans don’t go around claiming false knowledge.
If these models are a particular persuasion threat, it’s likely only in the way that drones are a particular violence threat: because it’s easier for most people to tell a model to lie than to lie directly themselves, just as it’s easier for most people to kill through a remote drone.
Yeah, I'm seeing this as yet another case of LLMs-as-time-savers. What's the difference between a human - - doing research so they can lie accurately; - giving an LLM a post containing lies and asking it to edit; - asking an LLM to write the post entirely while asking it to lie in the prompt?
I’ve always felt they'd zoom out in this dimension before they would arrive at AGI or “consciousness” whatever that is Why? It’s easier and humans are gullible
This is going to sound weird, but I find myself emulating LLM’s tone when I’m in a difficult interaction. Just because it’s effective I’ve actually asked them to coach me through hard, high-stakes workplace interactions (I am very informal and rough around the edges. The get social norms better)
Wow holy crap My fear? projection? is that AI achieves superpersuasion before they achieve superintelligence Likely even before they achieve “consciousness”, leading to a bunch of persuasion bots that are highly persuasive but lack intent Thank you!
Just a thought. LLM's are probably trained by subreddits?
Read r/changemyview's response to this clearly unethical study: www.reddit.com/r/changemyvi... It's a travesty that the University of Zurich IRB okayed this study.
If this holds more generally, this is substantially bad news for how easy it is to persuade humans with AIs, and suggests we might soon face a persuasion crisis from AI.
do they control for the pre-existing bots interacting with the posts
To be fair, some orange dude pulled off the same trick. It really doesn't take a computing center to fool lots of people. You just need to be shady.