If we are going to bail these people out—and we shouldn’t, because they all knew this land was sliding when they bought or built their homes—the state should buy these properties at their prop 13 valuations and not a single dime more.
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These people are not the victims of bad luck. They understood the risks they were taking perfectly well.
They sued the city to overturn a moratorium on development in the slide area!
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Yes. I grew up there - everyone knew about the slide area and always thought the people there were crazy
I'm with you on this one, and another reason building on the coast on unstable land is probably not something we want to encourage or deregulate.
Yeah we should build lots of homes in the stable, already-urbanized areas of the coast and leave everything else alone.
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Kind of insane. I see the angle - a way for the state to get Federal money to fund some managed retreat and open space/habitat creation, which can be used for mitigation later, where development SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED!!!!!!
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The city implemented a development moratorium and the landowners sued to have it overturned. They knew exactly what the risks were!
The government should be able to buy any property at the property valuation imo.
I cannot stress enough how much these people knew exactly the risks they were taking. They sued the city to get permission to build in a landslide zone!
Most “wealthy coastal property owners” in SoCal are just elderly people in a small house they bought for $100k, the framing here is so dumb
$42 million is going to buy about 4 houses at their full value regardless
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The multi-decade tax subsidy they got via Prop 13 should make up the majority of the gap for uninsured long-term homeowners
Yes. I grew up there - everyone knew about the slide area and always thought the people there were crazy
Some of the houses in the slide area are really winning big from the "special assessment" that will be used for payouts
It seems this is due to the specific FEMA program used (reclaiming dangerous land so no one builds on it again), and it's irrelevant to previous state & local decisions.
The homeowners also lose ¼ of the value as FEMA only pays ¾.
Not great but can't change how the program works
Damn I guess I should have bought a house there when they were all unloading them at 30% value
I would have more sympathy for someone who bought there in the late 70s, just after prop 13 passed, and they might have thought it would be possible to stabilize the slopes long-term.
Anyone who bought there post-2000 should be given a tent. And be lucky to get that.
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I disagree in part. Disasters happen all the time. People build in flood plains or high fire areas. We help people who make bad decisions all the time. However, houses should not be bought or at market rate. Somewhere around assessed value or a little less
Indeed. If you wanna enjoy the prop 13 tax valuation, then that’s what you get back.
Pure corruption.
They fund their candidacies, they thank them by laundering them money
And those rich homeowners all vote Republican because they believe in personal responsibility and hate welfare.
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You're mad that the government is paying people when they lose their homes. Okay. Lol.
The government: you cannot build homes here because this land is sliding into the ocean.
Property owners: we're suing!
The government: okay fine.
*houses become uninhabitable because the land is sliding into the ocean*
Property owners:
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Multimillion handouts for the millionaires, shut up, get to work, pay double for housing insurance for the rest of us.
How many politically connected people live up in those hills? Do you really think your morally correct position will hold?
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It's common for people to say "homeowners block new housing because they know the shortage props up their home's value" but IMO it really just comes down to people hating change (and car traffic)
my most fiscally conservative take is that I don’t think we should spend tens of millions in taxpayer money to bailout millionaire homeowners in expensive suburbs who actively and knowingly built mansions that were about to crumble into the sea
I don't understand how people don't recognize that parking just doesn't, and CAN'T, scale. The 3,400 spaces at the 4 Lynnwood stations, even if 100% full and w/ a generous estimate of 1.5 people per space, represent enough riders to fill only 6 of the 140 daily trains each way.
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Parking can run out at Lynnwood by 8:30 a.m., leaving some would-be riders to ditch light rail for yet another I-5 drive. Other stations' garages are filling, too. st.news/4hrl3Y2