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M. Nolan Gray 🥑
‪@mnolangray.bsky.social‬
Elevator reform is dead in Washington after opposition from a firefighters and elevator unions, who often have side deals with US elevator manufacturers that increase costs. As is typical, it doesn't seem like defenders of the status quo had any actual evidence? www.theurbanist.org/2025/04/03/e...
Elevator Reform Falls Short at Washington Legislature - The Urbanist
# Despite considerable momentum behind SB 5156 coming from the state Senate, the idea of reforming Washington's strict elevator codes met resistance from firefighter groups and the powerful elevator c...
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April 4, 2025 at 9:10 AM
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‪brianrtw.bsky.social‬ ‪@brianrtw.bsky.social‬
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This is exactly what abundance folks and others are saying that Dems needs to listen less to Groups and be more focused on people’s outcomes.
‪M. Nolan Gray 🥑‬ ‪@mnolangray.bsky.social‬
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Yes, and I don't think the abundance folks are reckoning with the structural changes in Democratic politics that need to happen for that to be real.
‪M. Nolan Gray 🥑‬ ‪@mnolangray.bsky.social‬
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The one successful case of what is now being co-opted as abundance policy, YIMBYism, succeeds not only because of elite persuasion—the abundance movement's principal current strategy—but because a bunch of YIMBY activists put in the work change the underlying politics of this issue.
‪Rory Stolzenberg‬ ‪@rorystolzenberg.bsky.social‬
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This comment seems particularly odd given that the IBC references ASME 17.1 elevator standards and specifically does not reference ISO 8100?
“While we understand the legislature is grappling with the important goal of increasing affordable housing units, this bill proposes to do so by skirting important safety requirements related to elevators, specifically that global safety standard, also known as ISO,” Lindsay LaBrosse, business representative for IUEC Local 19, told the committee. “This includes removing safety requirements that allow first responders to evacuate tenants quickly during an emergency like a building fire, as well as ensure that no one is burning alive inside of an elevator.”
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‪Rory Stolzenberg‬ ‪@rorystolzenberg.bsky.social‬
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Or wait, are they saying the ISO standard skirts important safety requirements? Because the bill would have required the state code council to either adopt global standards or allow smaller elevators under ASME?
(4) By March 31, 2026, the state building code council shall 20 adopt, by rule, standards for cities and counties to allow all 21 passenger and freight elevators to meet the most current version of 22 global safety and related standards or, in the alternative, the 23 current north American standards, and standards for cities and 24 counties to allow passenger elevators no larger than those that 25 accommodate a wheelchair for apartment buildings with at most six 26 stories and at most 24 units in total.
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