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TracingWoodgrains
@tracewoodgrains
Sonya's point is one thing I try to underscore when I criticize EAs their values are not precisely the same as my own, but by my own values many of them are better people than I am and that matters
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@sonyasupposedly
something important to note, amongst those of us who don't take effective altruism very seriously (AKA me), is that sincere effective altruists are better people than the rest of us x.com/KelseyTuoc/sta…
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croissanthology
@croissanthology
What's that little thing hovering at the end of Kelsey's tagname? What extensions do you use for twitter? Trying to regularly update this kind of thing:
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I used to use YouTube, but since extensioning a thing called "Unhook" I don't anymore (it erases the front page): chromewebstore.google.com/detail/unhook- I used to have a For You page on twitter, but I don't since getting "Control Panel for Twitter" chromewebstore.google.com/detail/control I don't know of many
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TracingWoodgrains
@tracewoodgrains
it's this!
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TracingWoodgrains
@tracewoodgrains
Hidden behind all of the ChatGPT stuff, Gemini 2.5 is the first AI tool I've tried that let me one-shot the personal Twitter extension I've been hoping for: a tool that lets me tag users and link the posts that made me tag them as far as I know, it works!
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@JovKuz
Your values, in this case at least, are deeply flawed. Sonyas entire point, and Kelseys posts are just a modern form of self flagellation except even more performative and morally suspect, with a dash of disingenuity
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TracingWoodgrains
@tracewoodgrains
what impressed me when I met Kelsey and her small SF community was not their donations to causes they care about (which I find admirable even as I disagree on weights etc) but their generosity towards friends & work building a strong local community, raising their kids well, etc
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akidderz
@akidderz
Kelsey seems like a particularly good person. If she was the poster-child for EA they'd be a lot more popular.
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Tristan Cunha
@cunha_tristan
When people talk about EA, I really want to know what kind of EA? because it used to mean "donating money to effectively alleviate suffering and death." And now it mostly means "I'm really worried about AI, and sometimes shrimp welfare."
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Be Thinkful
@BThinkful
I empathize with this. On the other hand, I have given quite a lot to charities that I now regret. It turns out many charities were not effectively pursuing their nominal purpose but rather were engaged in an ideological battle against much of what I believe.
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Mistake not...
@mnmcsofgp
Whew, it has been a terrible week for simulated bees. IME the people in the trenches helping the poor, the wretched, the sick, the mentally ill have almost no overlap with the EA types I'm usually aligned with the latter politically. But I have far more respect for the former
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tetheredtoed
@tetheredtoed1
There is definitely something going on where people can buy erasure from the internet This person is 32. How much she makes and whether she has family wealth is highly relevant It’s not virtuous or moral to tell people to give away their money if you have piles accessible
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Jeremy Mcnabb
@Jeremy_AI_
Agreed This is precisely what we require acknowledging our skills aligned. Disagreement is ok but not ok enough to waste precious skill time. Move forward love/truthfulness/compassion/efforts/ prosperity all together as a united team. Like right now. Not tomorrow 😘
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TJ
@wivmx
The thing is, they’re incredibly good at making material sacrifices, but that is just not how to get where EAs want to go. They want to improve the world but refuse to understand it.
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robot.chihuahua
@_candroid
Consider this interpretation : EAs are not fundamentally more moral than anyone else, they are just willing to take weird ideas seriously. They give large amounts not because they have an altruistic streak simply because that's the logical conclusion of their reasoning.
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Kev 🇬🇧🏡🇮🇱
@kevinf567
I used to be an EA. I’ve done a 180 sadly
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Kev 🇬🇧🏡🇮🇱
@kevinf567
Congo is poorer today than it was under colonialism IN REAL TERMS
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