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2/8 For the FT (and for many others), the biggest puzzle is over how GDP growth can stay constant at 5% even as investment (which plays a bigger role in driving Chinese GDP growth than in any other country in history) is reportedly declining.
4/8 Part of the answer may be that GDP growth has in fact declined, and rapidly, over 2025, albeit from extremely high levels. Another part of the answer may be the surging trade surplus, which is extraordinarily high for such a large economy, and clearly not sustainable.
5/8 For all the promises by Beijing to rebalance the economy, rising consumption growth is not the answer because Beijing still hasn't figured out how to get consumption growth to accelerate. GDP growth, of course, is the sum of the growth in consumption, investment, and net
6/8 I'd add that I think one of the biggest problems with the reported GDP data, which isn't really discussed in the article, may be the lack of any mechanism that forces recognition of bad investment, so that investment losses at the SOE and local-government level are...
7/8 often capitalized (i.e. recorded on the balance sheet as assets) rather than expensed (recorded as a reduction in profits). This is turn allows officials to post higher GDP growth rates than they otherwise would by overstating investment, income, and value-added production.
8/8 If this weren't happening (i.e. if the investment were productive), it would be very difficult to explain why – in an economy in which almost all recorded debt goes to fund investment – debt has been rising so much faster than GDP for nearly two decades.
“Concerns that it may be overstated” is a really, really diplomatic way of putting it, Michael. I would have gone with “everyone knows the stats are bureaucratically inflated, but no one has a reliable alternative.”
I know I've got zero evidence for this. But my gut feeling is that China GDP is underreported. Their production numbers measured in tons, units, kWh etc is so enormous that compared with everyone else. 30+ million cars, 55% of world steel, 2x US electricity demand and so on.
There seems to be no endgame for Xi—just kicking the can down the road. Trump actually offers him an escape route via a trade deal. China could rebalance by gradually reducing and eventually ending subsidies, financial repression, and currency controls. Many Chinese companies
They're mixing real numbers with financial reshuffling. Like recently where banks were offering loans with interest subsidies just so money keeps recyling adding to the irrgularities. So ofcourse GDP numbers don't make sense if you look at them without context
Way too many (including Beijing) put way too much stock in growth numbers. China probably hasn't actually grown since the property bubble collapsed.
Lmao. Could it be that traditional western economic dogma might not explain everything? No it must be an entire fucking country that's wrong.
Translated from Chinese
Bro, after more than a decade, you're still so stupid. The ideology in your brain makes you a fucking idiot. The majority of economists worldwide are fucking idiots because the humanities are dead. You all just yap all day in university without any real practice. Pathetic.