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The people who have most turned against Democrats on immigration are not the "white moderates" that MLK talked about. They are IMMIGRANTS THEMSELVES, and their children. That's not being ahead of your time, that's a public relations disaster.
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(((Harry Enten)))
@ForecasterEnten
No group has become more hawkish on immigration & shifted to the GOP than immigrants. Immigrant voters -Trust more on immigration in 2020: Dem +32 pt to Now: GOP +8 pt -Net fav of immigrants here illegally: +23 pt in '20, -6 pt in '24 -Trump's vote: 36% in '16 to 47% in '24!
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Holden
@Holden114
For Democrats to grasp this point they have to differentiate between legal and illegal immigrants instead of lumping them all together.
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Kristoph
@ikristoph
The reason is pretty obvious though right? It is very very hard to become a US resident and for many it is a VERY lengthy process that costs a great deal ( for legal fees ). If you then just let anyone in then people who struggled feel cheated.
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Bill Karr 🌌⌛🐢
@billardkarr
Isn't this kinda the history of America? People migrate to America and then they turn against the next generation of immigrants?
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TheGhostOfRobertHeinlein 🏹🎯🤺🥊👨🏻‍💻⛵️ 🎣🪵🏕
@sumanpalit6
I'm a legal immigrant. I have been a US citizen for decades now. I stood in line, proved my skills, waited, waited, spent money on lawyers, nitpicked every form, paid for biometrics (twice), health exams, you name it. My citizenship oath ceremony was a solemn and symbolic event,
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The Glass Pyramid
@pfh007
That makes sense. More immigration reduces the bargaining power of the existing workforce. Professionals and trades have understood the importance of barriers to entry for centuries.
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𝔻𝕠𝕔𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝔽𝕒𝕥𝕖
@georg3
Correct. Democrats & media spent years conflating illegals with legal immigrants. It's like saying a car owner is the same as a car thief, or likening a homeowner to a squatter. Journos still do this today. At some point, we got tired of being equated with thieves & liars.
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cameron fen
@cameronfen1
Lots of GOP posts arguing that the protestors are all minorities or illegal immigrants. I don’t think people comprehend that the main people that continue to protest after it has become toxic are white people counterproductively trying to be good allies.
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KSE
@kbk3n3
These are not American citizens. They are illegal immigrants waving flags of other countries, burning the US flag, Looting businesses, hurting police, disrupting commerce and destroying parts of LA. x.com/spencerhakimia…
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Miguel Maruso
@miggymaru
I'm one of those immigrants. I came to the US in the 80s, legally, and was naturalized in the 90s. I absolutely support deporting every single illegal immigrant and their anchor babies without exception.
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Fergus Meiklejohn 🇺🇦
@airuyi
Lots of immigrants voted for Brexit in 🇬🇧 It’s a strange phenomenon. Partly pulling up the drawbridge, partly the most “fully integrated” role you can play as an immigrant is to become a racist ultra nationalist
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TheNoticer
@indocon1111
Why are smart people like Noah Smith not getting the obvious - immigrants do not want to turn this country like the one they left behind, it's as simple as that.
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Calamity Jules
@CalamityJules2
Nobody likes a line cutter. I don’t blame the legal immigrants for feeling the way they do. They see through the BS and support Trump’s immigration policy.
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Iranian Bronson
@IranianBronson
It’s only this way because the democrats did absolutely 0 in terms of counter messaging. While Trump continued to paint them as bloodthirsty criminals and freeloaders, Dems did nothing to point out they do near nothing to increase crime. Instead they folded to the Trump narrative
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Penguin Cavalry
@Penguin57a
Few have written about this (maybe Mike Madrid has?), but "The Groups" also have a strong hold on the "official" voices of minority ethnic groups with Democrats. By discouraging open and frank discussion it led to the party getting blindsided.
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stork
@cool_junk_1000
Well, this is 100% going to flip in the next poll, but if Dems are open to feedback atm: there's a "male feminist" energy in Dem engagement with immigrants -- say the right words but not follow through, not prioritize them, not actually value or like them.
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Bender Bending Rodriguez
@NYCerInExile
You mean we're supposed to listen to the upper middle class terminally online class on immigration and not... actual legal immigrants and second generation kids? Shocked, shocked. Now let me utter the right opinions so my friends will click like on my IG stories and TikToks.
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Corelius
@CoreliusTheLame
The issue was the volume of migration in the Biden admin. Which communities get the most immigrants? Immigrant communities. There is a ton of stress on services and other negative externalities. People were more pro immigrant under Trump because it stayed at Obama levels
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Rival
@realjacobsrival
In 1924 the US enacted strict immigration controls so that the flood of Ellis Island immigrants could assimilate. That’s what’s happening now and you just can’t see it.
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Steve Kerins
@SteveKerins
Per Nowrasteh's piece below, as well as other analysis we've seen, it turns out that less-educated immigrants are as susceptible to various Trump-ecosystem propaganda as are less-educated natives.
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Axel Gear // Mr. Jack
@Mr_Axel_Gear
Not a new or unique phenomenon. A lot of immigrants, once entrenched, sneer at other groups of immigrants. "I got mine, who cares about others?" Not all are like this, but a good chunk of them. I know it's trite, but immigrants aren't a monolith, even about immigration.
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Steve Boston
@huskyjayhawk
Nobody likes line cutters. They cut a line those folks waited in, or their family is STILL waiting in. We can speed the line up, but not while anybody is cutting it.
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Adrian Werner
@AdrianWerner
Uncontrolled immigration, especially one accompanied by crimes, makes life far harder for immigrants who already are in. So no surprises there.
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TheCoomerGremlin
@CoomerGremlin
The legal immigrants who are law abiding do not want to see their country turn into the countries they fled from. What a revelation this must be. How shocking.
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Skipbeat
@Skipxbeat
Yep, legal immigrants worked hard to get here, why would they be happy when they see people who came here illegally get special treatment?
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Photogater
@photogater
People who worked their butts off to become citizens aren't interested in giving others relative freebie citizenship.
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Draconic Intel 🇺🇦🇨🇳🇺🇲🇬🇧🇪🇺 #FBPE
@DraconicIntel
It's the whole thing of idk if this is entirely why it's done, but continuing to keep legal immigration very difficult leads to "everyone must have it as difficult as I did"
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hill hermit
@azhillhermit
Immigrants did a lot of hard work to leave behind their country of origin and it's culture. I can understand them not wanting it following them.
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PureLiberty
@PureL1berty
That makes sense economically. New migrants dampen the wages of recent migrants, but doesn't dampen native wages, so recent migrants have an incentive to limit new migration.
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Frau Elster
@picaae
Legal immigrants have the most to lose when illegal immigration is not just tolerated but promoted.
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joshallenfan2003
@ja17fan2003
Media's failure to portray disastrous policies being pursued by the administration in a fair manner is also hurting them with this demographic. Many voted for him in 2024, not realizing that they'd be targeting legal avenues of immigration more than illegal ones. And many are
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Arbaris
@Arbether
Because legal immigrants wait 5-20 years for their right to live in the country and will resent those who didn’t.
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Mattitude
@mattreedah
Giving oxygen to riots and generally thumbing your nose at federal immigration law won’t help this. But that’s what elected dems are doing.
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Abelardo
@mike10101013
Immigrants are human beings with foibles. My friends mother is illegal still and she like to complain about "venezuelans" While the republican see no difference between the two
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Can of Spam
@iDoLikeSpam
Legal immigrants who went through the proper process are notoriously opposed to illegals. This should come as a surprise to nobody. It's just a subset swinging from apathy to actual disgust at the moment.
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TheUnsaid
@TheUnsaid11
reason: the "white supremacy" guilt trip (psych warfare, gaslighting that short circuits logic & moral compass) doesn't work on legal immigrants.
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Jeff Nelson
@nelson26141
Why was this a surprise? Student loan forgiveness was also unpopular among people who paid their student loans. Responsible people rarely like the irresponsible. It’s childish. Follow the law. Riots in this context are even worse- brats having tantrums instead of being adults.
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fiorentina
@mara_fiorentina
There are Trump signs in the black and brown neighborhood in Chicago and signs with nobody is illegal in front of 5 mil tudor style mansions in non walkable far away suburbs where the politicians live 🙄
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Rusty and Mango
@mcdo67334
I’m a naturalized American myself and a conservation thru and thru. It aligns with my belief and life style nothing against anti American party
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Common Sense
@SensibleSimio
What changed? It's not like Democrat policy has changed. Were people that easily fooled by democrats lying to flood the country with criminal invaders?
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Kaang Jia- Cheng
@kaangjiacheng
It’s a fear response from the Latinos. It’s denial that they will be affected and so they think that voting trump shows that they’re safe. It really is their dislike of trans which democrats allowed themselves to be weighed down by.
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Touched_His_hem
@THisgarment
As an immigrant who has gone through several steps to citizenship, yes, I am against ILLEGAL immigration, not immigration, obviously. We know it can be done the right way, so we have a harder time tolerating that others don’t. It is not okay to do anything illegal in my book.
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Repuzans🗿
@repuzans
Nobody likes fobs, especially if you live right next to them which a lot of immigrants do. We also see the bad apples that came in thanks to Biden/Harris and are disgusted. Speaking from experience since I live in a heavily immigrant city.
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Long Hell
@shorthaters
It cause legal immigrants hate line cutters. My mom an immigrant was a Biden simp cause Trump hated immigrants to a maga cause of the migrants crisis.
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John Regan
@Regan_Smart
One of the most ardent Trump-supporting anti-immigrant people I know is herself an immigrant who came to the US with her family as a child as political refugees.
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Zack
@s_idnrbs83853
I've said this before but my immigrant wife voted for Joe Biden in '20 and Trump in '24. Illegal immigration was one of her top issues.
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Mark
@fotomarcos
That’s what happens when democrats intentionally conflate people who followed the rules with those who didn’t. The rule followers don’t appreciate that.
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Mark in SF
@Mark_in_SF
Why would legal immigrants support illegal immigration? Democrats have made it CRYSTAL CLEAR in the last 15-20 years they want to FLOOD the country with illegal migrants. In 2006 they voted for a 700 mile border fence! Wow times have changed.
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