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There was a 2016 plan to upgrade the boardwalk to withstand high tide. NIMBYs blocked it using CEQA. This is the problem with California regs — our system favors “do nothing” as if that’s always better than any change. False for industry, false for housing, false for energy.

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@darren_stallcup

Dec 23

BREAKING CALIFORNIA: A LARGE SECTION OF THE SANTA CRUZ BEACH BOARDWALK HAS FALLEN OFF INTO THE PACIFIC OCEAN.

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Bishop

@BishopFromArk

Dec 24

How much improved will the environmental quality be with all of that junk on the ocean floor now?

CEQA rarely improves the environment anymore. It was a well intentioned law but it’s been totally co-opted by special interest groups. See California High Speed Rail for example, where much of the delay and cost has been due to CEQA.

Apparently the portion of the pier that failed was in the process of being repaired due to a prior storm.

Clearly not soon enough. Delays have a cost. Another thing that CEQA ignores.

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The idea that the world of 1970s — which CEQA effectively froze in amber — was peak environmentalism is batshit crazy.

Were they going to build housing on the reinforced wharf or something?

Jan Sramek

@jansramek

22h

Nope. Just rebuild it. But NIMBYs don’t need a why. For most of them, change = bad. It’s also a weird psychological flex where they get off on the power of suing someone under CEQA.

This is a deeply conservative philosophy!

Conservative philosophy would say keep doing what’s worked. Which for 10,000 years has been for humans to improve the world by building stuff. So no, CEQA is not conservative. One can’t randomly pick the 1970s as the world that should be frozen in amber.

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@simpleplan90s

Dec 24

We should be able to sue NIMBYs that delay into this kind of destruction

Yes. Some other ideas — (1) Prevailing party in CEQA should get its attorney’s fees back. So if NIMBYs sue and lose, they have to pay the other side’s costs. (2) Say that only District Attorneys and AG can sue. Not some random local NIMBY chieftain.

California is basically beyond hope right now. I used to think it was a good target to direct yimby and deregulatory energies. But now I realize it’s an unwinable battle. America’s abundant green future lies in Texas and other red states where building things is legal.

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California could have left all that tar pit goodness in the ground and we would avoid all this climate change. But CA didn’t, so there it goes. Don’t blame environmental protection for stuff that was done by others.

Bell Cat

@PacNorthWest

32m

CEQA is all about making informed decisions. It seems obvious to me that the problem you refer to was the misapplication of CEQA, and not CEQA itself. Just because people don’t use it effectively doesn’t mean we should just toss out its practical decision making process

Gamma Trap

@TrapGamma

Dec 24

Sounds about right. Vesele vanoce!

"The California Environmental Quality Act"

It's never actually about the environment, it's about virtual signaling and funding the bureaucracy. If they really wanted to fix it, they would have just replaced pilings when they needed.

SacredThreads

@SacredThreadsK

CEQA is the killer of so many needed projects. The delay it causes to all development in CA is insane.

Stephen Taylor

@Angelmarauder

I assume the business using the boardwalk were going to pay for it fully? And not the surrounding community?

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@19th_c_Houston

14h

Do you have time for a thread on how CEQA delays, blocks, or raises the costs on fixed-guideway transit in CA?

The power in a bureaucracy is saying “no”. If they say “yes” too much their existence would not be needed and would be questioned. Bureaucracy exists to slow and stop things.

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can you provide a pointer to the 2016 plan and the CEQA justification to oppose ?

Wasn’t the lawsuit over a walkway thatbwas proposed in an area that was not affected by the collapse?

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DC in SB

@dcinsb

This is the pier not the boardwalk

Infrastructure explained

@infraexplained

20h

Ceqa should be repealed

Govt needs to start defying govt

busy bodies were a mistake

It was purposeful denied maintenance, nothing more!

Anachronaut

@Oscar_Domestic

11h

There’s also now the issue of absolutely everything public costing a kazillion dollars in CA and taking forever. So often projects never leave the ground.

Link?

In order to get things built in California and not get #GreenMailed you need to get state legislation giving you a CEQA exemption. So the only things that get built are what the government wants... You know- taxpayer funded sports arenas