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Armand Domalewski

are you fucking serious, federal law BANS EV chargers at rest stops?!?

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Claire Wayner

@ClaireWayner

Oct 8

the fact that federal law prohibits EV chargers from being built at rest stops is ludicrous... sure, encourage people to drive to cute towns if they want a meal, but if they're in a bind and need a charge, shouldn't we make use of rest stops?? subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews

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Chris Villarreal

@venerable_bede

It bans commercial activity at rest stops on interstates.

Re-energizing highway rest stops - R Street Institute

From rstreet.org

It’s protectionism for small towns along interstates. The law bans a variety of commercial activities at interstate rest stops and not EV chargers specifically.

The EV charger situation is even more ridiculous. The chargers on chargepoint network (which appear most widely available and most convenient when on road trip) are completely useless. 10+ hour charge. Only where Tesla superchargers are available is genuine charging possible.

nonsense. there are Tesla chargers all along Route 95 the federal interstate from Florida to Maine.

Tesla having megapack makes deployment so much easier than others as well — you need crazy high power grid connections once you’re past a handful of stalls, unless you can use batteries to spread out peak demand.

The same people that want government to build more things also want to micromanage how government does it. Be sure you have an environmental impact statement; have all your contractors pay union wages; subcontract to minority-own firms; and don't compete with local businesses.

MacCallister Higgins

This is fake don’t be dumb

@supercollider_x

anti-competition

There are plenty of superchargers along major interstates at rest stops, this is obviously false

Probably countless idiotic laws on the books like this. This is why it’s so important to (at least make best efforts to) remove one piece of regulation for each new one enacted

It's not EV chargers. It's commercial activity. There are a few small exceptions like vending machines, tourism books/DVDs, and so on. Also, there is a grandfather clause for places that existed before 1960. So, you can find areas with food or gas stations at rest stops.

Bill is not going back

It’s not that federal law bans EV chargers, they ban most rest stop functions including gas stations and restaurants. Exceptions are only for state highways that pre-existed the Interstate, like the NJT (where you’ll notice there are gas stations and Tesla chargers).

That is crazy. But I've seen EV chargers at rest stop like things along interstates. There are superchargers at the Hookset rest stop on I93 in NH. I guess that's a privately owned rest stop.

I know for a fact there are Tesla superchargers at the Florida turnpike rest stops. can't read the full article because of the paywall. is it just actual interstate highways that have this restriction?

@JoshInEncinitas

I don’t want rest stops to be gas stations.

@MR_Roberts_INC

No, but it does ban all commercial activity, which catches EV chargers (unless they are public and free, maybe...)

Henry Fung (also on bluesky)

This is not true. google.com/maps/@35.43526

I mean there isn't like gas at rest stops either, tbf. Every one I've been to is just clean-ish bathrooms, some tables, and a few vending machines.

No, not serious

Craig Harrington

Not serious, actually! It's an unfortunate donut hole but one that's easily fixed. It would likely create a national champion in the charging business -- you could imagine EVGo, Electrify America, Tesla, and ChargePoint going to war for this contract.

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Matt Buford

@mattbuford

Oct 8

Replying to @ClaireWayner

It's not like they passed a law to block EV chargers. There's a law against commercial activity at rest stops. So, no restaurants, gas stations, etc. Vending machines and a few other small things are exempt. Also, establishments that already existed before 1960 are grandfathered.

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@FantasyBackup2

Yes, the same way gas stations are banned

@juanmoretime16

I have charged at rest stops. I don’t think this is true or if it is, it’s more nuanced than that.

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Gas stations are also banned at rest stops. They’re not meant for you to hang around and have people constantly getting on and off. As long as you can’t do either it’s fine.

I don’t believe this as California has EV chargers at rest stops

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The ban is on commercial activity at rest stops in general. It isn’t specifically about EV chargers.

@JacobLee1374269

I've seen EV chargers at rest stops in California. But these are managed by the state of California.

@whatabouttheken

There are some in California but they are free and run by caltrans

Relentlessly Yapping

@RelentlessYapp

Time to change the law.

@RustbeltCrypto

The new york thruway. Along Interstate 90 has service areas with gas stations, fast food, and EV chargers. I don't know if there are any at the rest areas with nothing but picnic tables and sometimes bathrooms but I doubt it.

I think most of the rest stops on the Ohio and Indiana turnpike have chargers.

I 95 Jersey Turnpike has a plethora of chargers at every historically named rest stop.

Jacob Alperin-Sheriff

@DemocraticLuntz

Not on I-95 it doesn’t

Dennis Belogorsky

There’re chargers at rest stops throughout US 101, which is a federal hwy.

Saw one at a rest stop in Maryland.

Cary S. Krosinsky

Not true - there are EV chargers in CT and NY at rest stops

Apparently it bans gas stations at them too, or any commercial activity. We’re thinking of truck stops

we need policy change here. I'm an EV owner who's range limited, but this would be a game changer.

Some have existing exemptions

There are at least a dozen EV chargers at the rest stop on I95 near where I live

Just this weekend I was at a rest stop along I-95; bank of 8 Tesla chargers there.

@JimmytheButt202

There's no gas stations at rest stops either.

it's the same law that bans gas stations. Rest stops (literal parking lot and toilet type place) and plazas are different things.

BrewCity Brawler

@BrewCityBrawler

We pay more for hybrids et al in wi

This is a subset of rest stops so small I almost never encounter them in the northeast. All the rest stops have restaurants and gas stations. What is a "federal" test stop? That's what this pertains to. Only those.

ITA ban on commercial activity at the rest stops.

@lakecounty1975

It's a side-effect of the Federal-Aid Highway Act. Since we would be paying for that energy it would be considered "commercialized use" and is banned. I know nothing about Tesla chargers but you paid like a regular gas pump?

@vhexcellentmail

There aren't gas pumps at (non toll road) rest stops either, they are there to quickly use the restroom.

FoxMillFormerDem

Most don't have gas stations either, and no one ever complained about that.

interested onlooker

The Ohio and Pennsylvania Turnpike rest areas have chargers and restaurants.

You would have no problem paying the bill for those that charge their car there?

Radicalized Coconutist r00tdenied

This site is full of misinformation, no point in repeating it if you can't personally verify the claim

Had nothing to do with EVs specifically, which didn't exist. "1956 federal law limiting commerce at most interstate rest stops to vending machines, lottery tickets, and tourism promotion."

I don’t see how that can be true - every rest stop between Maryland and Pennsylvania had EV charging the last time I drove that trip

There are chargers all over NY State Thruway rest stops and welcome centers. I don't think that interpretation is correct.

Is there gasoline at rest stops?

The DOT makes the ATF look smart and their rulings look sensible. The DOT is a scourge on automotive advancement.

Joshua Val Marner

This seems… reasonable? They don’t put gas pumps there easier.

2021 article on a California interstate Malicious or ignorant, which one? dot.ca.gov/news-releases/

EVs have a bad habit of catching fire and not being easy to put out a gas station could take out a city block if it ignited the tanks

Check Mark Prime

@PrimeCheckMark

There are dozens, if not hundreds, of rest stops in NY, NJ with mandated EV chargers (free of charge) all over the place, with more coming. I don’t know what this article is talking about.

@JeanVal37813401

False