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Minh Nhat Nguyen
@menhguin
And yet you leave out a full minute of context, showing that Miyazaki was disgusted by a completely different technology made to generate grotesque body horror. From 8 years ago.
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Nuberodesign
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Since this utter garbage is trending, we should take a look at what Hayao Miyazaki, the founder of Studio Ghibli, said about machine created art. x.com/GrantSlatton/s…
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Minh Nhat Nguyen
@menhguin
“uhhhhhh but it’s still AI” Well sure, if you completely ignore the intent, meaning, tools, context and medium, and you have no idea what you’re talking about, and you’re also completely art-illiterate, and you talk about totally different thing altogether, then it goes hard
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Minh Nhat Nguyen
@menhguin
Hayao Mayazaki from 8 years ago: "You have just served me horrible, rot-themed pancakes. And why the hell would you make rot-themed pancakes?" Anti-waffle people: "Here's a clip of Hayao Miyazaki calling all waffles rotten."
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Rodeen
@RodeenSilver
And you left the next minute of context where the guy says that his goal is "To make a robot which draws like a human" and Miya responds with "I think we are living in the end times. We are loosing faith in ourselves". If anything, you are the one proving you havent seen the doc.
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Minh Nhat Nguyen
@menhguin
i saw the doc and read the follow-up interview where he clarifies it's about Kawakami making (is his view) an insensitive portrayal of people with disabilities.
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Minh Nhat Nguyen
@menhguin
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oh and in case you want to claim this is some vast moral objection to AI, here's a follow-up interview where he says it's mainly Kawakami being a dummy and using it in an insensitive way realsound.jp/tech/2018/10/p
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Elise Oyin
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Nate Hake
@natejhake
If Studio Ghibli in fact doesn't want their work used to train AI models, do you agree that should be respected?
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Minh Nhat Nguyen
@menhguin
we'll if we're just guessing, i guess he'd call you guys terminally online for crashing out over guys making cute family photos
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Grant Slatton
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tremendous alpha right now in sending your wife photos of yall converted to studio ghibli anime
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purav
@notpurav
oh i've never seen the entire video. I totally get why he would hate ai art if this was how he was introduced to it. what were they thinking lol
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Yishan
@yishan
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Yishan
@yishan
Ironically, the people who are misrepresenting what Miyazaki said about technology (i.e. his disgust was about a totally different thing, not generative AI making pictures) are disrespecting him far more than the people making slop art in the style of his movies. One is x.com/menhguin/statu…
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Dshoopy
@Dshoopy0
They dont respect him. If they did, they wouldn't be warping his words for political gain. If it turns out that he actually does think this way about AI art, that's fine, but it has to be by his own word.
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NYC Survivor
@survivor_nyc
I never understood why they would present this to, (of all people on the planet) Studio Ghibli creator Hayao Miyazaki. What did they except? lmfao.
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SchizoPoli
@SchizoPoli
You really think he’d react much differently to seeing his unique art style fed into an grinding blender of transformers and churned out the other end as a soulless commodity?
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Regrettable Interaction
@schitzobabel
Wow he's actually making a nuisanced comment on the way that technology requires the artist ignore everything about how the subject might feel due to a physical disability and antiAI zealots just need desperately to have people in their corner so they can attack people for having
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zan
@avrzan
Yeah. Context is collapsing. Every word means a different thing in different contexts. Shared structures of meaning sharding. Language itself as something stationary,l and shared, is being sunsetted. Consensual context chaining is over. Prepare to be invaded, an nihilated AI
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Elise Oyin
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coscorrodrift
@Coscorrodrift
idk im pro ai art and im pro 3d zombie ai i would've been like this too lol but i understand that hayao is a sensitive young man (who's old now) who got repulsed at a (imo) cool tech demo wonder what he'd think about ai making ghibli like pics of your family
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Josué R- 🐀 Local Cryptid
@MPLocke
Okay, sure but if you listen to what he says about the experience, he relates to how the animation has no connection to an experience at all. He's still disgusted with how the art is about the product and not what it's expressing.
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Minh Nhat Nguyen
@menhguin
if you want "connection to an experience" - this is the original quoted post. it's a couple sending cute family photos/memories to each other, and there's thousands like this. seems human to me, man.
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Grant Slatton
@GrantSlatton
tremendous alpha right now in sending your wife photos of yall converted to studio ghibli anime
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Erwan
@mushylog
I don't think it looks as bad as Miyazaki says it is. He says it reminds him of his friend who suffered. He said it's an insult to life itself. But isn't that the point of a zombie? A creature so vile, it's not even alive? So grotesque that it insults nature itself?
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Vinyl || Get Wild
@0x_Vinyl
Super grateful for context, also, imagine being those guys super early and abandoning their dreams because it didn’t align with someone, hope they kept going
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Nyanny Silverpaw
@lolnotacat
Yup. Though I'm pretty sure he'd still not like generative AI, that's a different argument. The fact that they cut out important context makes me disregard anyone who posts the video in the edited form.
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Marina🌰🌱🌿🎋
@manunamz
Really cool you found it.
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Marina🌰🌱🌿🎋
@manunamz
re: the clip showing Hayao Miyazaki’s disgust toward AI art creation (according to Grok): x.com/i/grok/share/o “…the X post's claim that this is a reaction to "Al art" is inaccurate, as Miyazaki was responding to a 2016 demo of Al-generated animated movements, not modern
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Fouché
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the misinterpretation of this reflection video from Miyazaki is mind boggling
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JimsyTFT
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omg, i have been fooled for years by this faqqing clip out of context, thanks man, o lord, the internet FAQQING SUCKS
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Leo
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Too late 4M views on another tweet
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Dexerto
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“I am utterly disgusted… This is an insult to life itself.” Hayao Miyazaki, co-founder of Studio Ghibli, is going viral for his reaction to seeing an AI-generated animation in 2016
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In the 2016 clip, Miyazaki does not refer to modern AI-generated images. In the full clip, he discusses a 3D model of crawling zombies, which he considers a disrespectful portrayal of disabled people. youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3…
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messi.city
@soccerpray3r
He’s Disney and will just continue live forever through his work in this new medium… until somebody tops him. Let’s get it.
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Tim Drage
@Cementimental
He's not condemning it because the result looks grotesque! Have you watched Ghibli films? They are masters of the weird and grotesque. He is condemning the anti-human-art ethos behind it. OpenAi and the like have the same ethos or worse.
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Mike The Lightbender
@MikeLightbender
When he says “this technology” he’s talking about A.I. not just thar specific A.I. generation. That’s why he said “who ever made this stuff has no idea what pain is” as in Artificial intelligence is emotionless & can’t express the humanity side of what art is suppose to be.
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CrazyHussar
@CrazyHussar
And yet you conveniently cut off the most important last part where Miyazaki asks what’s their end goal, and they answer AI generation (he was NOT impressed
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Pau
@PauGabar
Yeah that's fair the full context isn't generative AI and people spread misinformation about it But like, they do mention generative Ai as their goal (he responds the same if not worse) and he absolutely hates it anyways
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Majyqman
@Majyqman42
Except that AFTER that demonstration, he asked them what their goal was, and they said "we would like to build a machine that can draw pictures like a human" and his response was "humans are losing faith in themselves". So, additional context doesn't really change much, does it?
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Al "I can make it sadder"
@Al__Samil
1) why don't you just ask the guy? 2) Sure, the artist who spends so much time in every single one of his pieces that he transforms them into something beautiful, the one that admires human will and human creativity will surely LOVE to see people using AI to avoid drawing.
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