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I love that 30 Rock was created by someone actually genius at the form depicted and instead TGS is the most unwatchable junk ever. The sketches are anti comedy done perfect.
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Honestly, it might have made for a better show if they played Studio 60 as underdogs and explicitly didn’t hail the creators as geniuses. If a show tells you someone is super-smart, you’re gonna be constantly calling on them to prove it. x.com/i_zzzzzz/statu…
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It really does. She’s so pathetic and she’s so devoted to the single least funny art possible which makes it extra funny that she’s so principled.
"Funny, but because it's so lame" seems like like a pretty difficult genre of comedy to create, and they do it so well.
It makes every aspect of the show so much better. Like Jack being objectively right about TGS deserving cancellation and still somehow ending up with his life orbiting around its team
My favorite thing, which I think they stopped doing after the first season, was how occasionally you'd hear over the intercom something like "Josh to the stage for 'Illeana Douglas Talk Show'" or "Jenna, Ghostface Killah, and Yo-Yo Ma to the stage please for 'Muffin Top.'"
That time Liz wrote a sketch to prove women can be funny, and instead of showing it, they had a montage of Tina and Jane Krakowski doing wacky things under a song that literally said "You're watching this, you know women are funny, we don't have to prove it." Genius.
And yet still iconic in their terribleness. "Beep beep ribby ribby" "IT'S FARTING!" and "'Pardon me!' 'But you've already been pardoned!'" will live in my brain forever.
And then there’s an entire episode dedicated to making fun of the self congratulatory mythologizing of SNL. Just perfect
The original plan was for almost half of each episode to be sketches and to film the full sketches and put them online but they realized that wasn’t working by the second episode. The 30 Rock Book by Mike Roe does a great job of giving you the full behind the scenes story.
There's a part where Jack tells Liz "you make sketches mocking the president to fill time between car commercials." I think about that a lot.
Because both shows came out around the same time with vaguely similar premises, I recall seeing pieces written on them, commenting on the in-show sketches being “unfunny” but you didn’t mind on 30 Rock because that was the joke, and it was done so well
30 Rock's writing is top tier still to this day. The first season was so good I was almost sure it wouldn't make it to a second one.
Tina has said TGS could never make sense because there is a cast of like, three, at most, and usually it’s just Tracy and Jenna, and I think that’s so funny, thinking of an SNL-style show that is only ever two people
I think there’s a layer there that in reality - a lotta crap gets put on SNL. It was a way to vent about having to pander.
It was because she was a genius at it. When you’re writing a show that needs a plot and character development and everything else, there’s no time to also make a pitch-perfect sketch show. Only someone with no understanding of the art form would know to lean into that fact.
There's a decent SNL sketch in which she and Poehler introduce themselves as game show hosts, Poehler with a fake name then Fey simply saying, "And I'm Tina Fey."