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Flock Safety currently solves 700,000 reported cases of crime per year, which is about 10% of reported crime nationwide And they're just getting started

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Ilya Sukhar

@ilyasu

Sep 3

It’s happening

8:03 AM · Sep 3, 2025

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Garry Tan

@garrytan

Sep 3

That's 700,000 crimes that would have gone unsolved, where the suspects who perpetrated these (many violent) would go on to create a lot more victims if they weren't stopped. The damage to victims that would happen without Flock Safety is unconscionable.

This isn't black mirror-ish?

The opposite - this is subject to American laws and court orders

this is pretty dystopian man, idk

You're thinking Chinese surveillance US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims

Surveillance capitalism dressed up as crime prevention. Every problem becomes a nail when your solution is a camera.

Tell me more about how this is a bad thing

i vote NO to the all seeing eye. privacy over everything

It is only used in case of actual crime

Unreal. “A benevolent panopticon” that’s how the patriot act was sold to America. You know this will be used to stop political disagreement on both sides. Literally the plot of 1984 and I guarantee it was sold to them as crime prevention too. The way we stop crime is enforcing

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Luddite take

Isn’t their business model and growth reliant on crime increasing?

Garry Tan

@garrytan

Sep 3

Unless you can change human nature, crime doesn't go away on its own

Trading freedom for safety? Is that what this is? I’m just putting out questions.

Freedom to commit crime is not guaranteed by the Constitution

Another extension of the states panopticon? Who wudda thunk?

Don't do crime

not sure how i feel about mass surveillance, haven't people been wrongfully arrested because of this exact same system?

No, this exonerates the innocent and convicts the guilty Unlike memories and testimony, technology places suspects in specific places at specific times

Minority Report is real.

This isn't a pre-crime device what are you even talking about?

Benno Nagel

@benno_nagel

Sep 3

Personally I think its sad that were turning to mass surveillance simply because we aren't willing to let police proactively surveil and make arrests the old fashioned way. Creating a new illness to treat and old disease presents challenges and mass surveillance is not the way

Nobody is looking at the data until there is actual confirmed crime and a court order. There is a rough antiquated 20th century version of "SURVEILLANCE" that imagines people looking at screens 24/7.

Solving crimes doesn't eliminate those crimes. These aren't weaponized law enforcement devices.

It eliminates the next crime and allows the criminal justice system to operate more efficiently to prevent further crime Keeping violent offenders locked up saves lives and prevents more victimhood

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Jeff Orr

@JeffO773

Jul 18

It's really great that Chicago's murders are down and shouldn't be lost that there are 1000 more men in pretrial detention than last year. Keeping violent people behind bars makes communities safer. Oct 2017 - 7,222 July 2018 - 6,157 July 2019 - 5,945 July 2020 - 4,814 July

Imagine if we gave 10 year prison sentences for car jacking?

Would settle for 10 strikes and you're out at this point

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Dmitriy Mandel aka Schnitzel

@mndl_nyc

Sep 3

Apply the DOGE discount to everything these guys say: if they promise to stop a million crimes, they'll probably stop 100. But they will put a million people in jail - this part I do believe

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This is after people actually do crimes, wtf are you talking about

How are you celebrating this?

Not a big fan of crime

This feels CCP-esque. All for lower crime rates, but do the ends (lower crime) justify the means (surveillance state) here?

CCP-esque is when there are no audit logs and no accountability This is only via court order with full transparency

Solving crimes that have already been committed isn't eliminating crime.

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Jeff Orr

@JeffO773

Jul 18

Can't wait to see how AI drones solve corporations cheating on taxes, illegal market collusion, fraudulent fees, scam phone calls, etc. Just kidding. 24/7 surveillance isn't there to prevent crime (because it can't), it's just there to keep citizens compliant while corporations

I’m not against it, necessarily, but let us not kid ourselves: this is simply a copy of the Chinese model of crime prevention. It’s not the Japanese, South Korean or Singaporean model where people are just culturally more well behaved.

Just saw this - fantastic stuff. Is this due to interventions like the Flock drones? (Also very well timed, right before the massive liquidity glut through OpenAI secondaries…. Housing prices are about to go (more) nuts

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