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Don't they go together as essentially viewing the world as a stream of optionality?
No real difference between "If I marry Jim what if I meet someone better in 5 years" and "If I have a kid, what if I want to fly off to Paris in 5 years".
Is this downstream of stressing
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Elise Oyin
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Interesting graph!
Shows that the percentage married is decreasing (now is that due to death of a spouse due to difference in age expectancy for the sexes and overall life expectancy increase?
But the other thing is single no kids is increasing as well, but actually at a slower
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No it is not "driven" - correlation is not causation.
Many couples who don't want kids or haven't had kids for other reasons simply don't see the point in getting married since they don't have kids.
More marriage wouldn't magically cause people to have kids.
Not completely true. The graph doesn’t take into account the umber of children per household, only whether there are any.
And yet all of the concerned pro natalist public figures say very little about the marriage rate. Probably because many of them are divorced or into other alternative lifestyles
Correlation is not necessarily causation.
My hot take is the plunging birthrate is related to women being able to get their oxytocin from more convenient sources.
It's urbanization. In regards to human interactions, there is no new thing under the sun.
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The fall of Rome is widely misunderstood.
It wasn't invasion, disease or famine that truly brought it to its knees.
Rome collapsed because the birth rate did… (thread) 
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one would assume people would have more children if they were lonely and wanted company
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That's honestly surprising; there are a lot more 70-year-old couples today than there were in 1970!
This could also be the sum of two different shifts "down the ladder" right? Like 10% go from married/kids to married/no kids, and at the same time, 10% go from married/no kids to not married.
Not sure if this is the intention but "driven" implies the causality goes one way.
It's plausible the causality could go in the other direction too: people who want to have kids are more likely to get married. i.e. The decrease in marriage is driven by childlessness.
I would argue it is more linked to an increase in loneliness.
Let's no make it sound like the problem is young couples not wanting to get married!
probably it's mainly driven by married couples who has less children, while still having at least one. I'd like to see the evolution of couples with three children.
I, Elise Oyinkromeineifa, my pregnancy n all babies in me HAVE NEVER AGREED TO BE THE HOST OF VOODOO spirit, spirits N gods and we never will, I am married to no voodoo spirit, spirits n my pregnancy and my womb is not calabash, house for them to stay in
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Elise Oyin
@EliseOyinkro
Again, I, Elise Oyinkromeineifa and all the babies in my womb are Christians-followers of JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH, THE SON OF YAHWEH who was crucified in 1st century Israel and resurrected on the third day, and our spiritual location is that we are 100% seated with Christ Jesus
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Decrease in interest in having a child drives decrease in urgency to marry.
Couple formation (lack thereof) looks like a more likely probable cause, with decision to not marry as a possible second.
Maybe there's an excess of living space, with so many people affording to live alone.
Of course, age is a significant factor which this graph ignores.
Note that under these definitions, most grandparents, while certainly not "childless", will count in one of the "no kids" categories
Go out and have some kids
This graph is damming for the future of American society (hint there won't be one bc there won't be enough people)
Thing is, the purpose of marriage is child rearing. A disinterest in having children is part of the reason marriage rates are falling.
Tax cattle vector breeding for the police state is at risk!!! USA must deploy hypersonic drone bombers to ruthlessly enforce mandatory breeding requirements immediately to enforce full USA.