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Joshua Reed Eakle 🗽
@JoshEakle
What's hilarious about this, despite being applauded as a model by the MAGA right, Javier has basically done this by delivering an economic agenda that is quite literally the exact opposite of Trumpism.
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🇦🇷🚀 | ARGENTINE ECONOMIC MIRACLE: The GDP increased by 3.9% in the third quarter, driven by the successful economic policies of President Javier Milei and Economy Minister Luis Caputo.
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@BrownianBrotion
Voters don't understand or care about policy. They adopt the policy positions of the political elite that they've anchored themselves to. Milei is right wing and has some Trumpy vibes, so they support him. Any conflicting policies they ignore or rationalize away.
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Ááron Sepúlveda-Cué
@AaronSepulvedaC
Politics is not about policy, is about forms. Milei has the forms/attitudes of Trump, so voters see them as similar. The policy distinctions can be explained away bc voters are jotideological, nor care about ideology.
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Nathan
@skibipilled
It’s the same principle of an individual having the popular mandate to force his agenda through bureaucratic layers
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Zac Hill
@zdch
That’s IMO because in Kayfabe Epistemology, actual gears-level operations aren’t load-bearing for Essential Nature. Vibes are what define the essence of a thing, and are primary, and are paramount.
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J. Rolf Haltza
@RolfHaltza
Trumpism is an attitude towards government and politics, it's not an etched-in-stone set of economic policies. Trumpism will take different forms depending on the particular rot of each government.
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Shaperfunds
@shaperfunds
Is this satire? Pro-markets, anti-regulation, supply-side economics, tax cuts, anti-socialist, oppose big government, welfare, and waste—quite literally the exact opposite.
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Mateo Weiner
@mateow99
I thought that both of their biggest goals is reducing government spending. Seems similar enough but I’m not a politics expert
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Ethai
@EthaiReubinoff
He is a libertarian and Trump is a conservative/populist but there are a lot of similarities especially when it comes to deregulation and lowering government spending.
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Jon DiPietro
@jondipietronh
Can you think of any differences between Argentina and the world's largest economy and reserve currency that might call for different policies? Damn, I think I just ruined the surprise.
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Edward McGrath
@edmcgrath
The “exact opposite” of miles would be pure socialism. You have a point pertaining to tariffs versus free market. Never mind that Argentina has many such controls still in place. In other items such as dismantling the bloated federal state, they are very much the same page.
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This Vigil 🌺🚁🌺 🚁
@shred303
Both edgy outsiders, whose supporters memed them into office with a wave of populist voters discontent with the status quo, that's it, nothing else, policywise nothing alike, especiclly economics, comparing Milei to Trump is tiresome, dumb and frankly insulting.
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JollyCactus
@0xJolly
It would be valuable to elaborate the differences for you audience, I for one am not sure what you mean by this
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Very Insignificant Person
@VeryInsig
It’s almost as if some people are not ideological hacks & instead recognise that what is required & politically feasible can differ according to time & place & circumstances. But you wouldn’t understand that.
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Pardon My X
@IDESPISETWITS
Pretend you like him. He is ridding the country of socialist policies. Yea he’s going the opposite of tariffs because his country is in no way in a position of power to use them.
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Kish
@KishavanBhola
Not a real criticism. Obviously different contexts require different solutions. Only an ideologue (like a leftist) would have the same policies for the US and Argentina. Trump and Milei are pragmatists.
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ScorpioRising
@ScorpioRysing
Milei's agenda has more in common with the right wing (at least under Trump) than the left wing, so you're being disingenuous by claiming it's the exact opposite. I don't agree with the tariffs Trump is proposing unless they truly are just a bargaining tool, but our gov really
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Bitcoin Monger
@Pbdog415466
- Deregulation: Both leaders advocate for reducing government regulations to stimulate economic growth. Milei has pushed for significant deregulation in Argentina to reduce state control over the economy, similar to Trump's efforts to cut regulations in various sectors in the
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JoshN
@joshnaa2gez
It’s not actually. The only difference is Trump threatens other counties with tariffs. But it’s all negotiation tactics. Besides that, Trump is planning to massively dismantle the regulatory state.
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Brocknshock
@brocknshock
Trump’s economic agenda has many similarities to Milei’s. Lower taxes, less Federal spending and less regulation. Tariffs and not universally bad or good. It really depends how they are implemented.
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Carlos Castro
@SonicAir1375
Different countries, different economic models. This is basic econ. No two countries have the same needs out of their economic system. If so then simply following the richest countries economic model would be all that's needed to make a poor country rich
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Aleda Hellberg
@aleda_27
Now that's not true. I just listened to him talking to Lex. He chopped up the bureaucracies. He Axed a bunch of unelected government agencies and told to go out in the real world and make a living with their own two hands and their own brain. He got rid of insane regulations.
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SCDPCGC
@slllazenger
??? What are you talking about? The only difference is that Trump is more protectionist. They agree on the more fundamental ideas of supply side economics, smaller government, less taxes and less regulation. “Exact opposite” is so retarded.
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Aerych
@Aerych_
What are you talking about? He eliminated half the government? Is very concerned about govt spending and now is concerned about trans ideology. He cut red tape like crazy. He’s extremely anti-socialists. The only difference I can see is he lowered tariffs, but where did they
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Jelly Possum
@JellyPossum
Well you see the reason you have it backwards is bc we don’t give a fuck if you think Milei is right or left. We don’t even give a fuck if he. IS right or left. What we are praising was his firing and gutting the Argentina govt immediately after taking office. Thats all, Joshy
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Dino75
@GenX975
A year ago you would’ve called this man a loser so go fuck yourself Joshua you’re not a good person
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Momento Mori
@MomentoM53485
Well that's a different country, with different economic means. Trumpism isn't a policy. It's just the word you use to vent hatred. Your narcissism can't accept the profound loss you took. But hey, sooth that ego. Do you.
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ProfElwood
@ProfElwood
He cut spending. The Inflation Reduction Act was more spending. Trump is also talking about cutting. What part confuses you?
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M.L
@TherealMLZ
Slashing the regulations + social subsidies is definitely consistent, although the free trade isn’t. At the same time, Argentine issues are so different from American that I don’t think we can learn anything from this at all.
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Christopher C. Smith
@christophcsmith
Lot of naysayers in the replies here, but the fundamental problem Milei solved isn't a tax rate or regulation problem; it's a trust-in-institutions problem. And on that issue, they are opposites.
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SecondAccount
@SecondA16110022
Yeah. It’s quite instructive to see how much is based on vibes. The appeal of Trump and Milei seems to be primarily the “insurgent” vibe. Specific policies come second.
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CursedKnives
@Tlacuwise
Now all his fans are praising he recent reduction in pocerty - which are directly a result of such ‘libertarian’ and ‘conservative’ policies as a Family Basic Income and other social security redestribution schemes. 😂
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Negro Libre 🇳🇬 🇺🇸
@NegroLibre1
There's a "paleo" connection that's at root here. The economics aspect is indeed diff (free market vs protectionism) but the "Western Traditionalist" fight against modernity and liberalism is definitely held in common. In the modern right the culture war > economic theory.
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Giovanni Schiano
@GiovaSchiano
Milei has just been in Italy to attend the congress of Prime Minister Meloni's party, celebrated as a hero. None of the government's economic policies align with those of Milei's government.
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Penitet Cero
@DosUnfortunates
You don't get it. People are voting for "change" vs "same old". In that way, he and Trump are very similar. They are introducing new ideas and ways of thinking to politics
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Nick Collins
@NickMCThree
maga "libertarians" and actual right libertarians come from entirely different universes, and live in entirely different universes
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JB
@jbtrans2006
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has changed its forecast for Argentina’s economy and now estimates that GDP will shrink by 2.8 points in 2024 — a whopping 5.6 downward revision from its October forecast, when it expected the country’s economy to grow by 2.8 points
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Filly Nelson
@gnomegnosis
But perfectly in line with Doge The other differences can be attributed to economic situation. Argentina two years ago is much different than USA right now
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Javier Díaz
@javdiaz489
In their eyes it's about sticking it up to liberal status quo: a real charismatic, unconventional, unapologetic zealot swoops in and "fixes" the country in a radically novel way. Remember that, to them, aesthetics are more important than substance, morality, policy. Beyond logic.
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Super Khaz
@SupahKaz
Cut the size of government, get spending under control and large amounts of deregulation. That's pretty similar. There are differences - ex. tariffs.
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TheDandyNerd
@Count_Dandyman
Also it's easy to raise it by 3.9% when it's just recovered from taking a massive crash and still has only just approached the level it had 8 years ago.
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O.J. Simpzyn
@oh_jay_zyn
Cutting federal funding, abolishment of rent control, stated opposition of trade unions, support for privatization of healthcare. These are also items Trump would argue for as well, no? While very different they’re certainly not opposite
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Gaston
@Gaston01234567
Milei does play up the populist stuff though, which leads to the confusion. Now his admin is once again talking about getting rid of abortion.
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