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Ramez Naam
@ramez
Rubio was completely correct here. The incentives now are for every nation to develop their own nuclear weapons. Failing to defend Ukraine makes the world dramatically more dangerous. Trump and Vance are the ones bringing us closer to WWIII.
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Resolute Square
@ResoluteSquare
That time @marcorubio explained how USA, Russia & the UK promised Ukraine to provide for their defense forever if they gave up the huge stockpile of nuclear weapons left in the country after the Soviet Union fell. Good times.
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iang
@iang_fc
Yup, and as we know, those promises were worthless. Bring it back to the here and now. Does that mean Ukraine will develop some nukes? Assume they have nukes - then what? Will they use them? And what happens an hour later?
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Ramez Naam
@ramez
I see Ukraine as unlikely in the short term. Germany, Japan, and South Korea all have strong incentives, though. Ukraine has the incentives, but not the resources or relative safety required.
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Christopher Arndt
@cfarndt
This stark about face from common sense and previously held ideals is the sad a hallmark of so many of our civic leaders on the center-right. Some have resisted, but so many others have capitulated on the very ideas and principles on which they stood.
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Snehal Antani
@snehalantani
Non-proliferation is actually a really tough problem now. If you’re a country that wants sovereign safety, it seems pursuing nuclear weapons is the best course of action (see Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, India) Libya and Ukraine negotiated away their nuclear weapons and it
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𝕏C4Chaos𝕏
@c4chaos
reminder: Russia doesn’t even need to go nuclear 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Gabe
@GabeZZOZZ
Just the thought of the EU creating a European army to "take on Russia" sounds ridiculous. Russia possesses hypersonic missiles capable of reaching the entire European continent in minutes, against which Europe currently has no effective defense systems. Russia can wipe out
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John Deer
@Fkywhe
If I'm *any* close US ally today, I'm thinking of getting nukes if I don't have them already. Germany, Japan and S. Korea in particular would be nuts not to consider this (even if this means overcoming taboos)
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Montuakmo66
@montuakmo66
A thousand kilometer accurate cruise missile, targeting power infrastructure, is essentially a nuclear weapon. No electricity, hello hell.
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Dadi
@DadiShehadi
Pretty sure a war between countries that already have massive nuclear capabilities is far worse !
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Shane Martinez
@ShaneMa01033790
The cold logic of realism, when pursued to the full extent, means that global security is achieved when every nation has a bunch of nuclear missiles pointed at every other nation. That's it I'm buying a bunker. fk all you guys lmao
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Franz
@WoodPicker222
Putin can’t last a 100 years. But Elon is right. People like you and me, will destroy our own planet.
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