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Mark Joseph Stern
@mjsdc.bsky.social
Lots of reporting suggested that, this time around, Trump and his lawyers would avoid the sloppy legal work that plagued his first administration so they’d fare better in the courts. I see no evidence of that in this round of executive orders. This is poor, slipshod work obviously assisted by AI.
January 20, 2025 at 7:10 PM
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Typos and formatting errors get repeated across EOs, revealing extensive use of copy-paste. The rhetoric sounds like a ChatGPT imitation of the 5th Circuit’s laziest rulings. And the legal arguments are frequently fringe in the extreme, in a way that will likely piss off Roberts and Barrett.
Maybe the Trump administration’s legal output will improve when Bondi is confirmed as AG and she can staff with the DOJ with at least marginally competent MAGA lawyers. But the early signs here are not encouraging.
Remember that CJ Roberts repeatedly DQed Trump policies based on bad lawyering.
I guess I have to spell this out for those inclined to misread what I’ve written here: Obviously it is a good thing if awful policies are blocked due to bad lawyering. My use of the phrase “not encouraging” was sarcastic. Good grief. bsky.app/profile/keit...
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I had to read it twice :-) people are traumatized. I looked at your page and you have some really good ideas. I like the idea of seeing of states can prosecute these assholes.
That's hilarious. Why would they have to be careful now? Every clumsy, ill-educated move is further proof they have outmaneuvered every force that could once have countered them. They are feints demonstrating that the guardian angels are dead and the guardrails missing
Why would they care? Who cares what the courts say or do? They have no enforcement mechanism. Trump owns the military. Trump owns Congress. Trump owns SCOTUS or ignores it. Trump can ignore anything he wants now because there’s no one and no mechanism to make him follow the law. This is FASCISM.
They don’t need to pass judicial muster. They own the courts.
Their stupidity, laziness, and hubris will screw them up every time.
But the sheer volume of it may overwhelm both opposition groups and the courts. Is that not the blueprint they are following?
The brightest are blue, Mark. Only betas need apply to MAGA.
I’m afraid the real work with be done quietly by the Project 2025 people behind the scenes while Shitler pulls all the attention.
I think they're just seeing what they can easily get away with and what they may need to work on.
GROK is the real Russian MVP..
They work in secret sending letters from the lawyers to threaten all levels of gov. cops 2 w/ criminal prosecution for RICO actions if they protect immigrants.Their Naziboys🟰overthrow state constitution, hunt immigrants& cage immigrants. Already in CO.👀on 45🙈the true evil ones getting it ✅ behind 👀❗️
Let's face it, artificial intelligence is the only intelligence they have....
The difference now is that the Supreme Court has a lengthy history of saying the law is whatever Trump and his lawyers want it to say.
He forged Electoral College votes, held a press conference displaying reams of blank papers purporting to be divestment documentation and has a long history of this sort of thing. Are we sure he's actually signing these things? That the pages say what's purported? Anything?
Already proved last time around that it doesn’t matter how many guilty verdicts he has, nothing will be done
God they are going to bury us and the judicial system in AI dreck.
The is NO LAW anymore! That must be understood. This is what we face today - "For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law.” Oscar R. Benavides, President of Peru
It's a sign that they don't intend to listen to the courts.
Rule of law doesn't exist in USA as of yesterday.
The Birthright order shows this- they KNOW it requires a constitutional amendment, but are doing by EO anyway.
Coz Trump is all about style over substance. Doesn't matter if it happens or not, just that he can say he did it and have it lapped up by his cultists.
lol, they rightly suspect that the courts don't matter anymore, and that any "challenge" would be performative and unsuccessful. the idea that any american institution won't comply in advance is unsupported and naive. they've already failed spectacularly.
I think that people are working with different definitions of sloppiness. These orders were issued on Day 1. It will be hard for people to keep track. That was presumably the plan.
In contrast, the prior administration made sure every t was crossed and every i was dotted. How'd that work out?
Very well, actually.
And it will be what saves us.
So well Trump is being sworn in as POTUS today.
Executive orders aren’t the reason why he won. Let’s not act like the electorate got conned and he’s a lame duck who will do nothing but get rich
I appreciate the legal insight. But the "guardrail" here is that everyone takes the same legal position, eg that independent officials defer to legal judgement and do not obey in advance of it. The lesson of 1930s Germany is that these guardrails were simply bypassed or ignored. /1
Sincere good luck to those who will seek to use legal means to hold back the tide of "sloppy legal" EOs, or those who will later improve upon them or legislate. But in the meantime, the signal has been sent and some will take the EOs as they are. The only true legal safeguards are educated humans.
i think the approach this time is just to flood the country with these illegal orders and then threaten federal employees that won't honor them.
Well, the canonical “they” have been saying AI will save humanity. Perhaps this is the way that occurs: sloppy AI drafted Trump Egos.
Let’s hope they also accidentally activate Executive Hors D’oeuvres.
I don’t think it matters if the courts cave to him to. The law is what the courts and Congress say it is. As far as I can tell Trump has pretty well captured the federal judiciary from the appellate level up to the Supreme Court.
The law is what law enforcement and judges decide it is.
Typos and sloppy work will stop him seems like a rather naive point of view.
Yes. And that’s why whatever opposition is left is woefully unprepared for what Trump is going to do.
Thankfully, the incompetence of the first Trump Administration saved our democracy from ending. Let’s hope the sequel is equally inept.
Cue Hannah Arendt writing about states that replace talented people with "those crackpots and fools whose lack of intelligence and creativity is the best guarantee of their loyalty."
Does it matter if n you've packed the courts with MAHA judges? If an order is in pig latin Aileen Cannon is gonna go with it just fine.
