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compare the help in materiel, money and weapons (and all other kinds of support) that European Union member states have sent to Ukraine since the beginning of the war and the help Rusia's partners have sent. Which one helped its partner more? (give numbers)
EU member states have provided Ukraine ~€150B in total aid since 2022 (€72B military, per Kiel Institute), far exceeding Russia's partners' support: North Korea (~10M shells, 100s of missiles, 11K-40K troops, est. $5B value); Iran (drones/missiles, est. $2B); China (mostly
I hope the EU gets itself together and realizes Ukraine is fighting so much more then Russia.
EU policy should be to match each soldier sent to Russia by North Korea to fight in Ukraine with a soldier from the new EU Army outside of NATO.
Finally we agree. I have this feeling that Europe will more likely go at war with itself before it goes to war with Russia.
One may advocate for war like it’s a sport, forgetting that real people bleed. While loyalty may be measured in missiles and drones, it must be remembered thay every "strategic partner" today is someone's broken family tomorrow. War isn’t won by allies. It’s lost by humanity.
It's interesting to consider the dynamics of international alliances and how they influence conflicts. The commitment of certain nations can indeed shift the balance in unexpected ways.
EU & India aren't useful allies at all, they are both consumer driven economies that suck up a lot of resources but produce little real value.
The pensioners of the EU will never allow their savings to dwindle in order to support UKR
Uhm. No. Support from China is extremely limited (they don’t even invest into economy) and Iran was just supplying military equipment (same way EU/US does).
North Korea is the only exception, but even there it’s trade, not support. Russia is buying military from them.
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You mean North Kroea the meat grinders, who get sent to the front lines, to absorb bullets, so the real soldiers fight. Russia who let ASSAD DIE, after so many promises. Russia who let Iran lose control of its airspace and which lost valuable resources to its
Bro Russia bought a batch of commie slaves for cannon fodder. This isn't fellowship of the ring.
It is srupid, that we let it happen.
Another country is IN WAR with UA... And we can just watch... strike the fucking commie retards.
Send them a present.
So why can't the EU send Ukraine troops? Seems Putin has started the escalation .
What's the problem, Pekka?
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Special Operation Is Over—Now Comes the War
Russia’s Gloves Are Off, and Ukraine May Not Survive What Comes Next.
For over a decade, the West has played a reckless, blood-soaked game in Ukraine, gambling with the lives of millions to satisfy its imperial delusions.
But now,
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This lacks all perspective
Western countries have provided $280,000,000,000 of aid to Ukraine in 3 years, plus Europe has absorbed much higher energy prices at great economic cost
By contrast China's "aid" to Russia is just... continuing to trade, as it does with everyone else
And the only reason this is happening is because they sense Western weakness. If they thought the West was willing to take any action against them at all, they wouldn’t be doing this.
I'm 100% for sending Ukraine as much money and weapons and intelligence support as they need. But even I draw the line at troops. We can't afford WWIII. We just can't. We're talking about a risk to all life on this planet if that happens. Nothing is worth that risk.
N. Korea benefits from sending their troops to die for an exchange for goods. EU on the other hand does not benefit to help Ukraine .
How European countries can let this stand without taking massive action is more than concerning, it’s crazy. Europe needs to form a group that allows trained volunteers to fight against NK/Iran/China/russia in Ukraine.
People just laughed at them as cannon fodder without mentioning that it was the Ukrainians who were exchanging lives with them. Any straw could be the last straw.
Well, it's not fair. We could have done way more for Ukraine than we actually did, but even so, we did much. We provided real technology to Ukraine, from this century, not just scrap metal from the 80's of the past century and some meat for the grinder, as the orks allies.
We should probably speak of different parts of Europe with regard to level of commitment. The Nordic and Baltic countries understand that only a Russian defeat in Ukraine is the only acceptable outcome.
The two cults converged, and it'll be interesting to see who has more loyal subjects.
To be fair europe has given all they have. The issue is, it isn’t much.
These are the heights of Russian hypocrisy. Putin begs for help in increasingly strange countries while denying the right to help Ukraine to other countries.
How long will the "Western elites" submit to such bluffs of desperation?
Dictators willing to sacrifice their own people for the goals of other dictators isn’t admirable in any way.
This is because Europe benefits from this situation. Ukraine is exhausting Russia (in Europe's opinion) + giving it time to arm itself, so Europe will start taking any steps only when Ukraine is half or almost completely occupied.
This is completely true and Europe is completely irresponsible, the leaders of the countries always think about their own interests and are afraid of escalation. But that will change quickly when the following countries' borders are violated.
Europe is happy to just have meetings and if they agree to a time for the next meeting to continue discussions they are satisfied
This is why it's a bad idea to drive societies into situations where they have nothing to lose.
Imagine a European country sending 30.000 troops to fight in Ukraine. Unheard of
Because as we all know, it is Europe's half-heartedness that has transformed it into a free and prosperous continent.
When we meet and hold conferences, they act. When we philosophize and ponder, they do not doubt. When we consider what we can or can't do, they do what they want.
Shame on Europe who just talk, make promises and never keep them. America could not care less about Ukraine.
There's no going back for Russia. Trump has washed his hands of it. His military concern is middle east because that's were the resorses and money is. Europe is in economic turmoil struggling with funds and manpower. Will China take the advantage.
Difference is Russia must pay for everything. No one will give them any support for free.
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I agree on the idea, but it's not quite true. There would be nothing left of Ukraine without the Patriots, SAM-T, SCALP, etc etc that was sent. Are we doing enough? No, not at all.
How has plucking 1 hair at the time of a angry bear working out for them...Maybe drop that "We are better than them" and let the Russian population know they are at war. kremlin will never burn if Kremlin is never attacked.
A sad truth! Russia’s allies deliver without hesitation, whereas many of Ukraines allies deliberate ad nauseam and continue their practice of appeasement towards the Russian Federation.
Right, since Europe is such a useless ally we can stop sending our tax money to Ukraine then? I mean, if it's not doing anything, right? Yes? Hello? Any Ukrainians who want us to stop sending aid? Since we're so useless?
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Sweden will be providing a new defense aid package to Ukraine, Zelensky confirmed. He also noted that Ukraine is actively working with Germany to speed up decisions on strengthening air defense and thanked Latvia for also approving a new military support package.
With those NK troops, WW3 already started but orcs still threaten the world with WW3 and some Europeans still fear that WW3 might start if we're not careful 
EU has done nada to help Ukraine! Look at all of Russias allies and how they help them!!! Amazing
Ukraine's best ally, the US: "Fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. It's a bargain!"
North Korean regime doesn't care about their people. They see them as nothing more than pawns
Laos rumored to be joining the party too. At least its very easy now to refute the moronic “its 30 vs 1!” line vatnike use as an excuse for Russia advancing 60 lm in 3 1/2 years.
Failed Politics, started decades ago with Ressource dependency Gas and Coal from Russia and thinking Trading creates democratic influence and friendship, but the opposite happened, Russia Propaganda waited for Syria War.
The better way would be Solar, Wind, Hydro, Heatpumps.
This is a very sad truth. The West has sat on "moral superiority" as a means of defense against an immoral enemy. The usa leaving NATO is the only way that Europe will realise the threat it faces. Only then will things really improve. The ball and chain is the usa !!
but why? West, namely US and EU, have fully commited to russian victory as well
"they've actually been more useful allies to Russia than Europe has been to Ukraine".
Its not helpful to piss off your allies. These troops will last a month of cannon fodder. Thats it.
Grok gives a good summary. Europe gave Ukraine ~€150B in total aid since 2022 (€72B military, per Kiel Institute). North Korea (~10M shells, 100s of missiles, 11K-40K troops, est. $5B value); EU aid is vastly greater in scale and commitment.
You're just factually delusional.
There is a big g difference . Half the europeans are pro russian for numerus reasons. That ties the hands of the majority of the european goverments .
Stop talking trash europe is just weak they tried their best stop making it sound as if they have an unlimited arsenal just waiting around
News flash, Europe has been a hollow shell for decades. The United States has tried for decades to get those lazy selfish fucks to contribute more to their own defense. Instead they have shored up social welfare benefits and healthcare systems at the expense of their defense.
Ukraine has never had real allies. Those who are called partners never wanted russia to be defeated. china, iran, north korea, etc. understand this perfectly well.
FFS
This war would have been over already of not for Ukraine being propped up by the US and Europe.
why people still fighting each other like its the flintstones era
like how is it even productive or meaninful
Well, i do believe that's why we don't take their support seriously.
"They're just typical 3rd world hermit nations, what can they do against us"
Europe isn’t looking for war.
NK and Russia are foaming at the mouth for war. That’s all they have.
