Post

Conversation

Big takeaway from the last few years of democratic primary voter behavior (and intention, in the case of Sinema) is that while they don't always have strong policy preferences, they do punish perceived disloyalty to the party
Quote
Josh Barro
@jbarro
This is why I find claims that Kyrsten Sinema is going to lose a primary over this so amusing. x.com/mattyglesias/sโ€ฆ
David Watson ๐Ÿฅ‘
Post your reply

holds up
Quote
Josh Marshall
@joshtpm
Replying to @jbarro
โ€œPeopleโ€ may not care about it. But the people who vote in Dem primaries care quite a bit.
Indeed!
Quote
Erik Linstrum
@ErikLinstrum
Replying to @joshtpm and @jbarro
Iโ€™m ready for Senator Ruben Gallego
Well, she basically flipped off everyone who voted for her. She broke a bunch of core campaign promises. She pissed off several prominent supporter groups. And routinely did stuff that made it look like she was just in it for herself.
Median Dem Primary voter seems to understand what a critical period 21/22 was with with the razor thin trifecta. And Sinema/Manchin killing pieces of the Dem agenda in that time isnโ€™t ever gonna be forgotten.
Sinema made her entire public identity poking her own party in the eye, she wasnโ€™t an awful Senator, just an awful politician.
The biggest success of the Harris campaign IMO is that they talk and act like actual human beings most of the time instead of trafficking exclusively in politician-speak. Walz, the social media comms, itโ€™s all light years ahead of the usual Dem offerings.
On the flip side, the same has happened to Lincoln Chaffee, Arlen Spector, and if you go far back enough, Jacob Javits
I think the policy preference was โ€œsupport the big plan that Biden wantsโ€ andSinema was punished for messing it up.
I mightโ€™ve been wildly wrong but I donโ€™t think she wouldโ€™ve ran anyway even if Reuben didnโ€™t run. She seemed like she was auditioning for a lobbyist gig the last 2 years of her term. Seemed like she didnโ€™t wanna be there except to cow tow to private equity.
It's almost like her and Manchin kept getting headlines in 2020 and 2021 for being the votes that stopped any big legislation from getting through or something.
๐ŸšจTHIS IS HUGE ๐ŸšจThere are illegals voting RIGHT HERE in Ohio in OUR elections. Now do you see why radicals like Sherrod Brown and Kamala Harris donโ€™t want to close the border? Send Bernie to the Senate to secure our elections before itโ€™s too late! Chip in NOW!
Rate proposed Community Notes
If you say โ€œIโ€™m not like the other Democratsโ€ often enough, for long enough, some people who vote in Democrat primaries may hear you.
See bush, bowman and I guess that lady who ran against shontel brown too. Canโ€™t compare voting for Biden to a bowl of shit in a deeply Democratic district
Not even disloyaltyโ€”itโ€™s grandstanding and sabotage that D voters punish. Her cutesy little โ€œthumbs downโ€ to higher minimum wage, a core D priority, encapsulates the reason sheโ€™s fucked in a primary of either party, lol
GIF
The โ€œfall in loveโ€/โ€œfall in lineโ€ inversion. Democratic voters, candidates, and electeds got the wake up call with Trump and decided to start playing the game.
You sure it's just more that grifting, repugnant personalities aren't welcome in the party?
The mediaโ€™s favored Dems in Disarray trope has made prim. voters allergic to the appearance of disarray at the expense of any platform or principle. Jumping in glee at Dick Cheney-style endorsements and adopting Republican policies, even though that brings disarray down the line.
The stakes are too high these days. Needing near absolute party unity to both win and then govern on such tiny margins makes disloyalty to the broader party a serious offense to primary voters. We want to get shit done. Be a team player or get. out.
The real takeaway: Rank and file donโ€™t like Harris.
Show additional replies, including those that may contain offensive content